1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:03,270 what's up everybody sorry i'm late 2 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:04,480 um 3 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:06,720 life is a little bit different with cars 4 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:09,120 and rides and stuff so i'm figuring out 5 00:00:12,549 --> 00:00:11,599 the exact schedule 6 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:12,559 um 7 00:00:16,150 --> 00:00:14,320 so i apologize about that but here we 8 00:00:17,189 --> 00:00:16,160 are and i'm happy to be here with you 9 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:17,199 guys 10 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,349 roger that 11 00:00:29,109 --> 00:00:25,680 uh thanks for joining me today though 12 00:00:30,710 --> 00:00:29,119 everybody i really do appreciate it um 13 00:00:33,910 --> 00:00:30,720 spaghetti lee 14 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:33,920 roger that robert cowford 15 00:00:36,790 --> 00:00:35,040 bass 16 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:36,800 rusty pack 17 00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:38,079 um 18 00:00:42,310 --> 00:00:39,680 who else we got 19 00:00:46,150 --> 00:00:42,320 christian thompson hello 20 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:46,160 um and benji of course alien girl hello 21 00:00:52,389 --> 00:00:50,000 uh yeah again sorry but we're here um 22 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:52,399 you guys are familiar with the wilson 23 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:55,120 davis documents obviously correct 24 00:00:57,670 --> 00:00:56,800 um 25 00:00:59,910 --> 00:00:57,680 well 26 00:01:02,310 --> 00:00:59,920 no one has really been able to 27 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:02,320 definitely prove them 28 00:01:05,270 --> 00:01:04,080 wrong 29 00:01:06,469 --> 00:01:05,280 or 30 00:01:08,710 --> 00:01:06,479 right 31 00:01:11,750 --> 00:01:08,720 um but so all we can really do is take 32 00:01:12,630 --> 00:01:11,760 the little pieces within those 33 00:01:15,109 --> 00:01:12,640 notes 34 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:15,119 and tried to 35 00:01:20,550 --> 00:01:18,320 flush them out a little bit what's 36 00:01:22,310 --> 00:01:20,560 real what isn't 37 00:01:24,870 --> 00:01:22,320 can we find things that aren't real or 38 00:01:27,109 --> 00:01:24,880 can we find things that are real that we 39 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:27,119 haven't previously thought about and 40 00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:28,960 that's where we are today 41 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:31,840 i am going to show you some things 42 00:01:37,990 --> 00:01:35,119 um pertaining to the real aspect of the 43 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:38,000 wilson davis notes um that really 44 00:01:41,109 --> 00:01:39,600 doesn't get covered 45 00:01:43,510 --> 00:01:41,119 and it's called the watch committee most 46 00:01:45,670 --> 00:01:43,520 people are focused on zodiac but if you 47 00:01:47,270 --> 00:01:45,680 recall if you read the notes it's called 48 00:01:48,870 --> 00:01:47,280 zodiac or 49 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:48,880 watch committee 50 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:50,799 that's how 51 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:52,320 it's listed 52 00:01:56,789 --> 00:01:53,200 so 53 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:56,799 committee before 54 00:02:00,709 --> 00:01:58,000 if you guys have been following me for a 55 00:02:02,469 --> 00:02:00,719 while you know that um 56 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:02,479 good news is 57 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:05,439 a hard drive that i thought was 58 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:07,200 blown or not working that had some 59 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,840 documents on it i got to work and there 60 00:02:13,430 --> 00:02:11,599 was one document in there that i 61 00:02:19,910 --> 00:02:13,440 completely forgot about about the watch 62 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:21,830 pretty soon and also we had some 63 00:02:27,350 --> 00:02:23,280 contributions 64 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:29,750 um robert doesn't mind robert you tell 65 00:02:34,470 --> 00:02:31,599 me if you do or not but i would like to 66 00:02:36,390 --> 00:02:34,480 bring his contributions to the to that 67 00:02:37,350 --> 00:02:36,400 aspect of this in the watch committee as 68 00:02:38,630 --> 00:02:37,360 well 69 00:02:41,670 --> 00:02:38,640 um 70 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:41,680 so yeah with that being said 71 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:46,360 let's get into it 72 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:47,970 [Applause] 73 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:49,540 [Music] 74 00:03:04,360 --> 00:02:50,700 [Applause] 75 00:03:05,370 --> 00:03:04,370 [Music] 76 00:03:08,309 --> 00:03:05,380 [Laughter] 77 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:08,319 [Music] 78 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:10,550 to 79 00:03:16,490 --> 00:03:15,310 [Music] 80 00:03:33,330 --> 00:03:16,500 [Applause] 81 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:33,920 [Music] 82 00:03:44,229 --> 00:03:37,250 [Laughter] 83 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,750 i'm pretty pumped about that interview 84 00:03:49,350 --> 00:03:47,040 tomorrow 85 00:03:54,470 --> 00:03:49,360 with mr senator harry reid 86 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,229 and yeah so 87 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,070 yeah that's a uh well christian that's a 88 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:02,400 good point but somebody has tried to 89 00:04:08,229 --> 00:04:05,280 interview eric davis about the wilson 90 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:08,239 davis notes um and that would be 91 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:11,519 stephen greenstreet um and eric davis 92 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:13,840 couldn't 93 00:04:19,349 --> 00:04:17,199 and that's 94 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:19,359 i guess that's a stereotypical response 95 00:04:23,189 --> 00:04:21,359 was something 96 00:04:26,070 --> 00:04:23,199 you know with a guy in that position he 97 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:26,080 can't really say one way or another 98 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:28,000 which is kind of odd because admiral 99 00:04:31,590 --> 00:04:30,080 wilson kind of did right 100 00:04:33,510 --> 00:04:31,600 um 101 00:04:35,110 --> 00:04:33,520 that being said when green street was on 102 00:04:37,510 --> 00:04:35,120 my show he did 103 00:04:40,469 --> 00:04:37,520 tell us that eric davis flat out told 104 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:40,479 him that he thinks this is aliens 105 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,600 so when you have somebody at that 106 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:43,919 stature like eric davis saying something 107 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,680 like that 108 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:47,199 it's got to mean something that's for 109 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,320 sure 110 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:50,000 combine that with the 111 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,080 off-world vehicles and hello 112 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:55,440 [Laughter] 113 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:57,360 um 114 00:05:02,150 --> 00:04:59,199 yeah so 115 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:02,160 either way i don't think we have the 116 00:05:07,990 --> 00:05:05,360 exact uh truth about it but there are 117 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:08,000 still avenues that are left untouched 118 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:10,880 in those documents um 119 00:05:16,870 --> 00:05:13,600 or those notes i should say 120 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:16,880 and this is going to be one of them 121 00:05:20,469 --> 00:05:19,039 there's another one that pertains to a 122 00:05:22,629 --> 00:05:20,479 person that's mentioned in there that 123 00:05:24,629 --> 00:05:22,639 i'm trying to get a hold of right now 124 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:24,639 um 125 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:30,320 so we'll see how that goes 126 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:32,880 um robert 127 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:35,440 i thought so 128 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:36,880 but 129 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:43,350 i'm double checking double checking 130 00:05:47,350 --> 00:05:45,039 well 131 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:47,360 i don't want to really yeah i just got 132 00:05:50,550 --> 00:05:49,440 it sorry robert i don't want to read it 133 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:50,560 right now 134 00:05:53,590 --> 00:05:51,440 but 135 00:05:56,710 --> 00:05:53,600 um maybe we could just read it together 136 00:05:59,670 --> 00:05:56,720 so that's okay too 137 00:06:02,469 --> 00:06:00,629 what 138 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:02,479 are you guys gonna be here tomorrow for 139 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:03,280 the 140 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:05,039 uh senator harry reid interview by 141 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:09,830 i hope you are 142 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:12,240 i've got some good questions lined up 143 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,000 and i gotta be honest i thought i almost 144 00:06:17,749 --> 00:06:15,680 blew it you know 145 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:17,759 and i wasn't gonna be able to do it 146 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:19,520 but 147 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:22,080 that is not the case and 148 00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:24,240 we're doing it tomorrow it's confirmed 149 00:06:30,950 --> 00:06:27,840 12 30 central standard time 150 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:30,960 we gonna get it on 151 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,280 um slow today or a little less 152 00:06:40,309 --> 00:06:39,120 prepared i've had a lot going on 153 00:06:43,110 --> 00:06:40,319 recently 154 00:06:45,189 --> 00:06:43,120 um so but i wanted to do 155 00:06:47,670 --> 00:06:45,199 you know a show so 156 00:06:49,110 --> 00:06:47,680 um here we are 157 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:49,120 oh you're not here tomorrow what the 158 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:51,199 hell spaghetti i was going to bring you 159 00:07:00,710 --> 00:06:57,510 but 160 00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:00,720 guess i can't do that now huh 161 00:07:10,150 --> 00:07:06,150 okay 162 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:11,909 all right here we go 163 00:07:18,950 --> 00:07:16,000 so without further ado 164 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:19,990 bring up 165 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:29,510 all right so i have kind of a lot here 166 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:30,400 so 167 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:33,520 um just bear with me 168 00:07:38,629 --> 00:07:35,840 as i get the screen correct for us 169 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:38,639 so we can just roll right on 170 00:07:47,589 --> 00:07:45,430 we gonna roll right through it right 171 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:47,599 through it we're gonna roll right 172 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:49,840 through it here we go 173 00:07:54,150 --> 00:07:52,720 all right i am going to 174 00:07:56,710 --> 00:07:54,160 pry myself 175 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:56,720 primus and nyc oh i see so light's back 176 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:03,990 typical 177 00:08:11,430 --> 00:08:07,120 i'm just i'm just playing with them 178 00:08:13,029 --> 00:08:11,440 okay so let's go full screen 179 00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:13,039 um if you have any issues seeing this 180 00:08:21,029 --> 00:08:19,589 this first one 181 00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:21,039 so again 182 00:08:30,230 --> 00:08:24,000 zoom you want me to zoom okay 183 00:08:38,829 --> 00:08:33,509 yeah it's not looking like it's working 184 00:08:42,230 --> 00:08:41,110 well i don't know what to tell you i 185 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:42,240 guess 186 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:45,440 the best i can do that's a little bit 187 00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:52,310 so i'll make sure these documents are 188 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,720 available to you after this and i will 189 00:08:59,110 --> 00:08:56,560 just read 190 00:09:01,750 --> 00:08:59,120 the good parts 191 00:09:03,829 --> 00:09:01,760 so this first one proposed interagency 192 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:03,839 operating procedure it's dated march 6 193 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,720 1950 subject permanent watch committee 194 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,959 again remember it's called zodiac or 195 00:09:11,509 --> 00:09:10,560 watch committee in the wilson davis 196 00:09:14,630 --> 00:09:11,519 notes 197 00:09:16,949 --> 00:09:14,640 agencies participating in this agreement 198 00:09:21,190 --> 00:09:16,959 just about everyone cia department of 199 00:09:24,070 --> 00:09:22,470 and 200 00:09:25,829 --> 00:09:24,080 then it kind of i mean there's a lot of 201 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,839 documents here to to kind of sort 202 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:27,440 through but i underline the best parts 203 00:09:31,590 --> 00:09:29,040 of it first of all the watch committee 204 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:31,600 shall act under the chairmanship of the 205 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:34,160 cia 206 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:35,839 and shall be compromised of the 207 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:38,160 currently constituted checklist group 208 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:40,480 which is hereby redesignated the watch 209 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:42,320 committee 210 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:44,720 i am going to look in the check into the 211 00:09:48,949 --> 00:09:47,010 checklist group as well 212 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:48,959 [Music] 213 00:09:54,470 --> 00:09:52,240 i guess maybe after this show 214 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,480 um here committees established in 215 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:56,880 intelligence advisory committee so the 216 00:10:02,630 --> 00:10:00,320 iac the iac 217 00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:02,640 had their hands all over this stuff 218 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:04,640 um so you can see all the different 219 00:10:09,590 --> 00:10:06,800 committees under the aic 220 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,600 um here we go right 221 00:10:16,710 --> 00:10:11,680 here we got the 222 00:10:22,949 --> 00:10:19,430 you can see there 223 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:22,959 december 7th 1950. 224 00:10:30,069 --> 00:10:24,480 so a few months after what we just 225 00:10:34,069 --> 00:10:31,190 this 226 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:35,670 in here it's basically in the production 227 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:38,240 of national intelligence together with 228 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:40,480 the proposed national security council 229 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:41,760 directive 230 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:47,040 basically they said violation of the 231 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,790 um 232 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:56,310 you know the watch committee their their 233 00:11:01,590 --> 00:10:59,279 main thing was to be the first to know 234 00:11:04,870 --> 00:11:01,600 of imminent danger or attack by the 235 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:04,880 soviet union ussr or as we will see 236 00:11:09,990 --> 00:11:07,600 flying saucers 237 00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:10,000 i'm here underlined we have 238 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:12,959 collecting and analyzing indications of 239 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:15,839 hostile intentions that will give 240 00:11:20,710 --> 00:11:18,320 maximum prior warning of possible 241 00:11:24,949 --> 00:11:20,720 aggression or subversion 242 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:26,870 we're getting the saucer part just hang 243 00:11:33,269 --> 00:11:29,680 in there 244 00:11:37,509 --> 00:11:35,509 the watch committee is one of the means 245 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:37,519 we have of carrying out this function 246 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:39,200 the joint chiefs of staff are entirely 247 00:11:43,190 --> 00:11:41,120 within their province and setting up the 248 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:43,200 weckerling committee in order to arrive 249 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:44,160 at 250 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,430 not too much here 251 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:53,360 that i can speak of at least 252 00:11:57,990 --> 00:11:56,480 intelligence advisory committee handbook 253 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:58,000 so this has all the standing 254 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:01,040 subcommittees of the iac in it at that 255 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:02,320 time 256 00:12:06,550 --> 00:12:04,000 and you can see here 257 00:12:08,949 --> 00:12:06,560 we have 258 00:12:11,509 --> 00:12:08,959 international communism 259 00:12:14,069 --> 00:12:11,519 economic defense economic intelligence 260 00:12:15,350 --> 00:12:14,079 guided missile intelligence interagency 261 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:15,360 defector 262 00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:17,519 interagency priorities 263 00:12:19,990 --> 00:12:19,040 joint atomic energy intelligence 264 00:12:33,430 --> 00:12:20,000 committee 265 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:33,440 pretty 266 00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:34,399 you know 267 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:35,760 i'm surprised that no one has really 268 00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:38,320 looked into the watch committee in 269 00:12:41,829 --> 00:12:40,560 relation to the wilson davis notes 270 00:12:45,990 --> 00:12:41,839 because there 271 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:47,509 this one 272 00:12:53,190 --> 00:12:50,480 to see 273 00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:53,200 but trust me um 274 00:13:04,790 --> 00:12:55,839 the watch committee and those members of 275 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:10,150 i mean that's emergency stuff 276 00:13:15,190 --> 00:13:13,269 that it's they had a 277 00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:15,200 big hand in all this stuff and i will 278 00:13:26,069 --> 00:13:23,990 um here's a little graph 279 00:13:27,670 --> 00:13:26,079 that shows you all that 280 00:13:31,030 --> 00:13:27,680 oh my mouse is kind of getting away from 281 00:13:36,310 --> 00:13:33,670 senior officer representing each 282 00:13:37,829 --> 00:13:36,320 intelligence agency organization 283 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:37,839 one of whom will be designated by the 284 00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:47,829 i don't know oh and here's uh bob's so 285 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:50,720 let's go through this together here 286 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:52,399 i'm not sure if it's pertaining to the 287 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:54,399 watch committee or not 288 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,350 i didn't get that far 289 00:14:06,230 --> 00:14:04,629 it doesn't look like it is actually 290 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:06,240 uh but let's read it anyways the 291 00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:08,399 following information was received from 292 00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:11,120 we know this guy hector quintilla 293 00:14:13,350 --> 00:14:12,079 uh 294 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:13,360 t do 295 00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:14,959 i see that all the time with ufo 296 00:14:20,310 --> 00:14:18,320 documents tdew regarding his briefings 297 00:14:26,389 --> 00:14:20,320 in dc 298 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:28,550 yeah general thomas seemed to be 299 00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:29,920 successful at the conclusion the 300 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:32,079 briefing general thomas came up and 301 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:34,560 expressed an appreciation 302 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:37,920 most interesting briefing 303 00:14:41,590 --> 00:14:39,680 uh both briefings went off much better 304 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,600 than expected hmm 305 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:43,680 very interesting though 306 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:45,760 very interesting i'll have to dive into 307 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,829 nro 308 00:14:56,790 --> 00:14:54,949 i gotta put the pieces together robert 309 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,800 after this i haven't been able to do 310 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:58,079 that 311 00:15:01,990 --> 00:14:59,680 but you are more than welcome to join us 312 00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:02,000 too and walk us through it if you're 313 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,350 so 314 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:12,230 here we go 315 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:14,550 we are getting 316 00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:15,519 to 317 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:17,760 the saucer 318 00:15:22,629 --> 00:15:20,639 here's a couple here's the fbi 319 00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:22,639 um and now we're going to start it in 320 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:27,750 1957 on the capture matter which 321 00:15:32,629 --> 00:15:30,000 reflected on intelligence advisory 322 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:32,639 committee evaluation of an air defense 323 00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:45,990 and here we go 324 00:15:49,509 --> 00:15:47,600 the watch committee also examined 325 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:49,519 possible soviet motives for launching a 326 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:51,040 one-way missile 327 00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:53,120 on an operation over the us and it was 328 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:54,800 concluded that there would be a little 329 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,470 saucers 330 00:16:12,150 --> 00:16:06,710 very interesting 331 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:14,710 now we have this one but i am not seeing 332 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:16,480 the one i actually wanted to show you 333 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,829 so 334 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:25,350 let me pop back for a second 335 00:16:36,069 --> 00:16:29,120 and make sure i have that one for you 336 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:36,079 because it is a very very a good one 337 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,839 we can't 338 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:39,600 not 339 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,189 because it's the main one 340 00:16:52,230 --> 00:16:49,910 it's the main kitten caboodle all right 341 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:52,240 here it is i got you i got you let's 342 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:56,320 just get the meat potatoes here right 343 00:17:06,150 --> 00:17:02,550 we got good stuff and it's time to check 344 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,510 here we go all right 345 00:17:23,829 --> 00:17:12,630 so 346 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:28,710 facts and discussion 347 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:31,029 and i 348 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:34,320 underlined all this stuff 349 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:37,440 psychological strategy board 350 00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:39,120 conclusions flying saucers opposed to 351 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,559 elements of danger which have national 352 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:42,559 security implications the first involves 353 00:17:46,789 --> 00:17:45,360 mass psychological considerations 354 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:46,799 and the second concerns the 355 00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,400 vulnerability of the united states to 356 00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:50,720 air attack isn't that interesting is the 357 00:18:00,549 --> 00:17:57,270 same 358 00:18:02,710 --> 00:18:00,559 things we're talking about 359 00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:02,720 there's a lot to look in here 360 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:05,679 to look into here by the way if you are 361 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:08,320 someone who is available 362 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,789 this is interesting 363 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:20,789 recently an inquiry conducted by the 364 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:26,870 it was found that the 365 00:18:31,110 --> 00:18:29,200 and i used to say this a lot 366 00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:31,120 it was found that the only unit of the 367 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,400 government currently studying the 368 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:34,799 problem is the doctorate of intelligence 369 00:18:38,390 --> 00:18:36,240 united states air force which has 370 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,400 charged the 371 00:18:48,390 --> 00:18:43,029 with responsibility for investigating 372 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,549 and this is pretty interesting since 47 373 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:52,640 atec has received approximately 1500 374 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:55,679 official reports uh 20 percent 375 00:19:01,590 --> 00:18:58,880 is unexplained 20 376 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:01,600 from january through july 52 it carries 377 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,880 28 378 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,280 unexplained we never told that one were 379 00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:11,830 no we weren't 380 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:14,080 and i've already gone over this document 381 00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:15,440 this is not even a watch community 382 00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:19,440 document i apologize but it's a good one 383 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,280 uh psychological 384 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:23,200 look at what they're looking at 385 00:19:28,150 --> 00:19:26,400 could be controlled could be predicted 386 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:28,160 and could be used from a psychological 387 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:30,160 warfare point of view either offensively 388 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,950 pretty interesting 389 00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,270 ayna 390 00:19:43,029 --> 00:19:40,799 pretty interesting 391 00:19:44,230 --> 00:19:43,039 duck you mint 392 00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:44,240 all right but i'm gonna find the good 393 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:45,200 one 394 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:52,470 just need some more time 395 00:20:02,710 --> 00:19:59,430 man 396 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:06,310 hopefully it wasn't 397 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:08,320 i had one document that something really 398 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:11,919 weird happened to on my computer 399 00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:20,950 i hope it's not the good one 400 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:26,390 yeah 401 00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:35,510 oh boy 402 00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:39,520 somebody's messing with my stuff aren't 403 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,350 that's not good 404 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:51,350 that's too bad 405 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:53,430 that is 406 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,710 very depressing yeah it's that one oh no 407 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,070 what the hell 408 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:11,750 i might have to report back to you i 409 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:12,960 guess 410 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:19,430 oh man 411 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:21,120 i you know maybe somebody hacked my 412 00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:22,480 computer i guess 413 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,830 that is no good um so 414 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,590 you know i know it seems kind of quiet 415 00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:37,200 right now with all this stuff but i 416 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:41,679 can't help but feel some sort of 417 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,640 oh i found it okay 418 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,640 uh i still feel like a buzz like 419 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:48,640 something is going on something is 420 00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,230 like there's some real work behind the 421 00:21:59,110 --> 00:21:56,559 scenes going on right now 422 00:22:04,710 --> 00:21:59,120 and we are about to be 423 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,190 so 424 00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:10,390 here is the good one okay 425 00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,590 well i'll read it to you this one's 426 00:22:27,029 --> 00:22:25,440 worth it 427 00:22:28,950 --> 00:22:27,039 okay 428 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:28,960 this connects the watch committee 429 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,200 directly to flying saucers again the 430 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,440 watch committee 431 00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:36,080 slash zodiac as mentioned in the wilson 432 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,750 at the top we got iac 433 00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:46,950 flying unidentified objects 434 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:51,039 i never heard of it called that before 435 00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:52,799 area 436 00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:56,240 let me flying identified objects 437 00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,080 attached is a proposed letter to 438 00:23:01,830 --> 00:23:00,159 secretary levitt from the dci 439 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:01,840 recommending the initiation of 440 00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:03,840 fundamental scientific research with 441 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:08,240 respect to the nature and causes of ufos 442 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,200 in parentheses flying saucers 443 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,799 well does recognize the implications of 444 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,400 flying saucers our 445 00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:16,080 primary concern to the defense 446 00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:17,600 department and carrying out its 447 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:23,190 um if you can't even see this or read it 448 00:23:27,350 --> 00:23:24,880 let me know because then i'll just take 449 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:27,360 it off the screen altogether but 450 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,720 um 451 00:23:32,950 --> 00:23:30,559 is carrying out its responsibility to 452 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,960 defend the united states it is also 453 00:23:36,630 --> 00:23:34,960 believed that intelligence must request 454 00:23:37,990 --> 00:23:36,640 of appropriate authorities such 455 00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:38,000 assistance 456 00:23:41,590 --> 00:23:39,600 as it needs to carry out its 457 00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,600 responsibility 458 00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:43,039 it is believed that the scientific 459 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,120 research required in the intelligence 460 00:23:49,110 --> 00:23:47,039 research contingent 461 00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,120 uh thereon can be most fruitful if they 462 00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:50,799 go hand in hand and here we go 463 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,480 recommendations the iac 464 00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:56,640 uh concur in the proposed letter to the 465 00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:59,600 secretary of defense the iac request 466 00:24:02,470 --> 00:24:00,400 that 467 00:24:04,470 --> 00:24:02,480 the watch committee to give close 468 00:24:06,470 --> 00:24:04,480 attention to indications which may 469 00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:06,480 reflect russian actions are being taken 470 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:09,679 with respect to or on the basis of 471 00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:12,720 cognizant's flying saucers with respect 472 00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:15,120 to the state of the united states public 473 00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:30,549 and then here we go it goes on to kind 474 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:32,720 of reiterate what we just talked about 475 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:35,360 since 1947 approximately 1500 official 476 00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,200 reports of sightings have been received 477 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:39,520 and of these about 20 are yet 478 00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:41,840 unexplained 479 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,470 so 480 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,720 the iac 481 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:51,120 did their own review of all this stuff 482 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:57,909 it is therefore recommended that the 483 00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,200 department of defense undertake an 484 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,080 expanded scientific research program to 485 00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,000 reveal the nature of the various 486 00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,240 phenomena which are causing these 487 00:25:12,870 --> 00:25:10,159 sightings 488 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,880 and means by which these phenomena may 489 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:15,440 be identified immediately 490 00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,520 it is also recommended that in such a 491 00:25:21,590 --> 00:25:19,279 project there be close cooperation 492 00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,600 between those conducting the research 493 00:25:25,590 --> 00:25:24,080 in scientific and technical intelligence 494 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:25,600 research 495 00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:28,080 the iac agencies are prepared to do 496 00:25:43,029 --> 00:25:39,830 now here's where we get 497 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:43,039 kind of going backwards here but 498 00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:50,149 whatever they want basically 499 00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:53,200 as far as intelligence 500 00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:54,840 they can withhold 501 00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,240 intelligence if it suits their mission 502 00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,159 and they can have access to any 503 00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:02,400 intelligence they need to suit their 504 00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:08,710 it is also believed intelligence must 505 00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,679 request of appropriate authority such 506 00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:14,640 assistance as it needs to carry out its 507 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,029 yeah then this one that's the one that 508 00:26:32,549 --> 00:26:30,720 went away i don't know what happened to 509 00:26:35,350 --> 00:26:32,559 it 510 00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:35,360 oh this is a good one this is a un one 511 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:37,679 i'm just getting totally random eric 512 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:43,029 yeah coordinating and disseminating the 513 00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,080 results 514 00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:46,400 now i'm just all over the place 515 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,669 that wasn't as organized as it could 516 00:27:02,149 --> 00:26:54,159 have made it i apologize but um kind of 517 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,230 no what does that mean for the wilson 518 00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:05,760 davis documents does that mean that 519 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:10,950 does that mean that 520 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,640 it's happenstance what does that mean 521 00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:14,240 well 522 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:15,520 you know you go around and you ask 523 00:27:20,149 --> 00:27:16,720 people have you heard of the watch 524 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:23,669 i bet you 525 00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:25,510 uh robert yeah you definitely can i'll 526 00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:33,350 uh via email so go to your email robert 527 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:34,480 and 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,549 so 529 00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:54,149 i can say this like the thing about the 530 00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:56,159 wilson davis documents is there's so 531 00:28:00,310 --> 00:27:58,480 many fine details there that would 532 00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,320 really take it's 533 00:28:06,789 --> 00:28:02,399 somebody like involved 534 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:09,110 that's probably deep in it to know that 535 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:14,950 you don't see the watch committee listed 536 00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:18,240 anywhere on anything ever 537 00:28:20,710 --> 00:28:19,039 not 538 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,720 hollywood movies 539 00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:22,240 not books 540 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,110 so how did they know how did they know 541 00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:30,960 of the watch committee and how did they 542 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,750 that they did have to look out for 543 00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:38,240 saucers 544 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,630 i would have to say 545 00:28:47,990 --> 00:28:45,600 um 546 00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:48,000 let's try to bring in our good friend 547 00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:49,039 robert 548 00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:50,880 hello sir you're pretty dark out there 549 00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,320 are you ready or no 550 00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,640 let me pull this closer 551 00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:56,399 yeah 552 00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:57,440 there we go 553 00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,520 good to see you sir hey good thing good 554 00:29:03,350 --> 00:29:01,520 to see you too thanks those early 555 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:03,360 documents they actually have a lot to do 556 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:05,200 with it so i thought maybe before yeah i 557 00:29:10,149 --> 00:29:06,080 just 558 00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:10,159 have time but um to go deep into it 559 00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:12,480 further but i'm so happy that you came 560 00:29:16,470 --> 00:29:13,440 on to 561 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:16,480 you know help me out 562 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,559 there is one other thing uh 563 00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,480 something i should say i've noticed in 564 00:29:24,470 --> 00:29:22,640 all my years researching the program as 565 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,480 it was different programs you know 566 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,080 researching and being able to compare 567 00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:27,840 them in a bigger picture 568 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:30,399 not just the air force ufo programs but 569 00:29:34,549 --> 00:29:32,000 like what you were just reading with the 570 00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,559 intelligence advisory committee right 571 00:29:39,269 --> 00:29:36,559 see this pattern that keeps getting 572 00:29:40,870 --> 00:29:39,279 displayed over and over again of 573 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,880 obviously 574 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,559 they've you'd think it's one of those 575 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,960 screeching to a whole all right folks 576 00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:46,880 disembark here this is where we're going 577 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:48,399 to make camp you know 578 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:49,360 and yeah 579 00:29:53,430 --> 00:29:51,279 then it just fizzles away 580 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,440 and then the whole process starts all 581 00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,600 over yeah 582 00:29:59,750 --> 00:29:57,520 that's the same spot 583 00:30:02,789 --> 00:29:59,760 and then it just fizzles away and then 584 00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,799 it just goes all over it keeps happening 585 00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:05,039 i know why did that spot again right now 586 00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,000 we are aren't we yep this has happened 587 00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:10,080 so many times before it's just 588 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,360 ridiculous 589 00:30:15,430 --> 00:30:13,279 yeah and so many different branches 590 00:30:16,630 --> 00:30:15,440 what i actually was driving to is as 591 00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:16,640 you're reading like that one of those 592 00:30:22,549 --> 00:30:19,919 last documents it sounds like the iac or 593 00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:22,559 the cia's clueless 594 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:24,799 as to any deeper 595 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,200 meaning going on and yeah 596 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:29,600 and that is unconscionable we know for 597 00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:30,559 sure 598 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,120 starting with the war department 599 00:30:37,590 --> 00:30:35,039 that there's a core group somewhere 600 00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:37,600 there's got to be there is no i mean i 601 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:40,799 am beyond convinced whatever it's called 602 00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:43,440 whatever person i suspect army general 603 00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,760 staff but that's my opinion based on my 604 00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:47,440 research it's the only thing that makes 605 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:49,760 sense because they were ones in control 606 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:52,880 when the flying disc problem showed up 607 00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:54,399 yeah 608 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:59,039 it's hard to 609 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,480 no no no i mean you're taking the 610 00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:02,880 pressure off me so go 611 00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:05,039 no it's it's 612 00:31:09,269 --> 00:31:07,279 it's frustrating isn't it because you 613 00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:09,279 see so many opportunities in the past 614 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,480 for maybe something to be put together 615 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:14,640 you know to figure something out 616 00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,320 i forgot what it was that i read a 617 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,080 document or something but it just 618 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,559 basically talked about how if they would 619 00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,159 have taken this seriously a long time 620 00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:24,480 ago they would have so many different 621 00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,279 electromagnetic readings by now and and 622 00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:28,880 different things that they can work off 623 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,519 of and a plethora of decades of 624 00:31:34,470 --> 00:31:33,600 information 625 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,480 you know 626 00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:35,679 or um 627 00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,799 the conspiracy people get you know 628 00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:40,000 lots of good 629 00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:41,360 information to 630 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,399 hope and i don't blame them because 631 00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,559 somebody has got to have found something 632 00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,159 out because it all even goes back to 633 00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,840 that original you know they call the 634 00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,760 twining memorandum 635 00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:54,240 yes that memorandum was right at the 636 00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,120 beginning after general garrett 637 00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:59,600 made the first deck of 638 00:32:02,549 --> 00:32:00,799 you know what an estimate of the 639 00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,559 situation 640 00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:04,399 colonel garrett did that and that's 641 00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,640 where project sign came from because of 642 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,799 that estimate of the situation 643 00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:10,480 in information like some of the stuff 644 00:32:14,310 --> 00:32:12,720 you found that was earlier than kenneth 645 00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:14,320 arnold you know they had a lot of disc 646 00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,840 sightings before kenneth arnold 647 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,519 even though it's reported 648 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,640 his 649 00:32:23,830 --> 00:32:22,159 sighting is what came that's where we 650 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,840 get the term flying saucer 651 00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:26,080 really that is not true even though it 652 00:32:31,269 --> 00:32:29,360 fits well flying disc in flying saucer 653 00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:31,279 was used in secret 654 00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,679 military documents before that because 655 00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:35,039 they were already calling it because 656 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:37,279 that was the shape of the object being 657 00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,720 seen discus 658 00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:41,519 if you now have you heard of um 659 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:46,240 uh that uh artist that um that drew 660 00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:49,519 pictures of these discs like in the 30s 661 00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,519 and had a patent for it alexander 662 00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:54,000 wieger's is he called i'm not super 663 00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:55,200 familiar with him but actually there 664 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,760 have been several people over the 665 00:33:02,920 --> 00:32:59,360 years that was in the 666 00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:02,930 30s 1942 he patented patented it 667 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,630 no go ahead while you talk i'll look up 668 00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,720 a a picture for you 669 00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:12,559 along those lines 670 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,600 playing it up further in blue book files 671 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:17,200 there's a couple of documents one of 672 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:19,600 them is really blatant where where some 673 00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:22,240 people saw a c-47 674 00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:24,799 dc i think that's a dc4 675 00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,200 a double two engine prop plane you know 676 00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,840 the basic for the time but a military 677 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,360 c47 678 00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,440 going over it with a disc underneath it 679 00:33:36,789 --> 00:33:35,039 and they watched it launch from the 680 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:36,799 belly of the 681 00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:39,279 c47 682 00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,360 and that was like 47 1947 that was cited 683 00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:45,440 interesting yeah so you go well those 684 00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:47,919 people are lying maybe they were but 685 00:33:50,789 --> 00:33:49,440 that is interesting they can you know 686 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,799 that's an interesting little thing to 687 00:33:54,630 --> 00:33:52,480 add to the 688 00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,640 yeah 689 00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:56,480 almost too confusing i don't want to get 690 00:34:03,669 --> 00:33:57,110 into it now 691 00:34:07,830 --> 00:34:05,430 you know like the i always thought 692 00:34:09,349 --> 00:34:07,840 though like the avro car and everything 693 00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:09,359 like 694 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:10,320 it's 695 00:34:13,589 --> 00:34:11,760 it 696 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,599 you know i don't buy this story they put 697 00:34:17,109 --> 00:34:15,280 out a hundred percent that it was just a 698 00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:17,119 complete flop and that said it only got 699 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,879 it only wobbled a little bit and that's 700 00:34:22,710 --> 00:34:20,560 it come on you put all that money into 701 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,720 it jack frost 702 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:24,240 is in on this 703 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:25,520 and 704 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,079 previously been working on it since like 705 00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,599 52 or whatever 706 00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:33,440 you're telling me it's 707 00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:35,839 you worked on it for that long and you 708 00:34:39,829 --> 00:34:37,919 only could get it to wobble with the 709 00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,839 detailed plans they have on it and 710 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,079 everything it's very interesting it is 711 00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,399 interesting no i'm kind of like you not 712 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:47,040 knowing what but something 713 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:48,560 something yeah 714 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:49,919 and that like i said that's what i'm 715 00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,919 saying you see that over and over again 716 00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:54,320 like when the ufo programs are handing 717 00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,520 off 718 00:34:59,510 --> 00:34:57,599 the ufo program to the new blood coming 719 00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,520 in you know new new directors and stuff 720 00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:01,760 like that each time that happened it was 721 00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,680 as if they got further and further away 722 00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,520 from what we're talking about all these 723 00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:06,960 other moments where you know they must 724 00:35:11,670 --> 00:35:09,200 have found something out there 725 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:11,680 lost in history and then the new guys 726 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:12,960 take over 727 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:14,800 it just gets worse now what do you think 728 00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,200 of when you see this 729 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:19,920 looks almost submarine-like too you know 730 00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:22,720 looks more like it was meant to be a sub 731 00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,040 well it's called the disco chopper so he 732 00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,640 was trying to design something more 733 00:35:30,390 --> 00:35:28,480 reliable than helicopters because at the 734 00:35:32,310 --> 00:35:30,400 time in the 30s they were just crashing 735 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:32,320 all the time but i mean this looks like 736 00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:33,200 a 737 00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,720 you know you got the thing in the center 738 00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:36,800 where the person goes 739 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,960 you know and the little protuberance out 740 00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:41,040 there very familiar looking 741 00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:44,320 yeah and he was drawing these things 742 00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:46,560 since the 30s 743 00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,000 you know so 744 00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:49,680 hard to know what to make of it in this 745 00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,880 timeline 746 00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:52,960 i heard he was more of an artist but he 747 00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:55,760 was um 748 00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,160 what's a metal uh metal person what do 749 00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,400 they call those not allergic 750 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,440 yes so it like he went to the top-notch 751 00:36:07,829 --> 00:36:05,440 schools for all that in a ship building 752 00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,839 he was a huge shipbuilder i guess 753 00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:10,160 an engineer with that so it's very 754 00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,920 interesting because there's all these 755 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,160 loose ends all over the place and it's 756 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:15,760 like there's got to be a connection 757 00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,970 somewhere 758 00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,760 [Laughter] 759 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:21,680 in his day he must have caused a lot of 760 00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:26,630 [Laughter] 761 00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,599 with a p not a t right 762 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,040 okay that's good 763 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,200 so what what have you been uh looking 764 00:36:37,829 --> 00:36:35,040 into recently what have you been 765 00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:37,839 researching on my spare time i still i'm 766 00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:40,880 hooked i'm hooked on 25 march 1948 like 767 00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:44,079 it's a drug i cannot go because i keep 768 00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:45,359 finding new 769 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:46,640 things you know 770 00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,920 one of the things we didn't go over i 771 00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,839 was so mad at myself for talking so much 772 00:36:55,109 --> 00:36:52,079 we didn't even cover half of what we 773 00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:55,119 should have when we talked yeah 774 00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:58,079 move your body to the left actually 775 00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,040 that way 776 00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,720 yeah then then it gets really bright for 777 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,240 you there you go 778 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,400 that's way better thing is at the other 779 00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:05,440 end 780 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:08,110 perfect now now we can see 781 00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:11,280 [Laughter] 782 00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,240 uh 783 00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:14,160 what was i saying 784 00:37:18,790 --> 00:37:16,720 uh march 25th yeah yeah yeah yeah i 785 00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:18,800 can't tons of things were going on you 786 00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:19,920 know 787 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:23,599 accident lieutenant york had with his 788 00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:26,400 p80 at the right at the airport where 789 00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:27,839 head of air defense command just 790 00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,040 happened to be 791 00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,119 on a day when it was 792 00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:32,960 of an international 793 00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:35,280 declaration of emergency declared by 794 00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,079 general spots who was head of the air 795 00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:40,240 you know chief air staff 796 00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:41,359 yeah 797 00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:43,920 something happened anyway right of an 798 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,359 example of what i didn't tell you is 799 00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:48,160 there were also they called them subs 800 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:50,160 but no one ever actually saw an actual 801 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,280 submarine 802 00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:54,400 it reminds me so much of the nimitz 803 00:38:01,510 --> 00:37:59,510 right people citing things they were 804 00:38:04,390 --> 00:38:01,520 cited that same morning that the disc 805 00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,400 landed off the coast of san francisco 806 00:38:08,470 --> 00:38:06,160 wow yeah 807 00:38:12,550 --> 00:38:08,480 wait a disc landed off the coast of san 808 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:12,560 francisco but that same morning oh right 809 00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,680 what happened in new mexico 810 00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,000 the same morning the general spots 811 00:38:23,109 --> 00:38:20,320 declares an emergency 812 00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:23,119 and puts air defense on a status of 24 813 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:24,800 hour a day alert 814 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:26,320 and it's really hard for me to convey 815 00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:28,240 how important that is we have to know 816 00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:31,119 our defense what year was that 817 00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,630 roswell 818 00:38:39,430 --> 00:38:37,839 after 819 00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,440 the watch committee 820 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:41,200 was this whatever he begins gelling in 821 00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,320 49 822 00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,480 see this 823 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,880 you're on to what i'm you know 824 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,880 and i'm not afraid to say i don't care 825 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:50,000 people can say where they want 826 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,280 everything i tell you is based on 827 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,280 everything i've read if i'm wrong i'm 828 00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,839 wrong i'll i'm wrong you know but yeah 829 00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,079 me too yeah there's something there's a 830 00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:00,000 connection i'm really certain now of 831 00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,800 whatever happened march 25th 1948 i 832 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,400 think dovetails in a lot of these 833 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:05,520 subjects 834 00:39:09,670 --> 00:39:08,160 that have affected us as people in not 835 00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,680 just in this country but the world 836 00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:11,599 historically i think 837 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:15,599 whatever they got in 48 in march of 48 838 00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:18,000 capturing that and studying it has 839 00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,839 the problems associated with that has 840 00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:21,040 branched out 841 00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,560 into different things and as far as i'm 842 00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:24,000 concerned including the formation of 843 00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:25,520 nato 844 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:28,640 it matches so perfectly it's crazy 845 00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,520 well that morning of the march 25th 846 00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:34,000 something weird happened 847 00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:34,880 and 848 00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:37,280 you know i know uh here's the thing i 849 00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,320 want to say this because i don't know 850 00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,880 how to answer that fully for for my 851 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,480 friend but 852 00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:45,280 i like the example i told you that last 853 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:47,520 group of mj twelve documents are just 854 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,040 total fakes and yet oh right right right 855 00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:53,280 yeah because important people that still 856 00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:55,040 are claiming they're real this is what i 857 00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,400 don't understand could there be like uh 858 00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,240 some of them that are and some that 859 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,640 aren't well that's possible for the 860 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,880 majestic documents all the ones ryan 861 00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,520 wood and his dad have i think there may 862 00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:08,960 be a couple of 863 00:40:12,790 --> 00:40:10,640 what they've got sprinkled in there they 864 00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,800 may be they were a couple of got my 865 00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:14,560 attention because what would you do if 866 00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:16,640 there's a couple real documents on the 867 00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,880 loose and you're trying to not let 868 00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,200 anyone see that you would probably make 869 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:23,040 a bunch of fake ones to throw in there 870 00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,520 with them 871 00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:27,119 yeah but it's such a waste of time this 872 00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,640 is why i'm so 873 00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:30,800 against all this leak stuff now that's 874 00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:33,520 why i am this way we can't afford to go 875 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:36,880 down these weird highways anymore and 876 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,079 like what you're doing here with the 877 00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,359 watch committee that should have been 878 00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:41,760 done a long time ago but nobody was 879 00:40:47,430 --> 00:40:45,520 interested i've never understood it 880 00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:47,440 obviously what would you do if you had 881 00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,680 the super secret committee that's 882 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:51,200 designed to keep the president up to 883 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:52,960 date 884 00:40:57,670 --> 00:40:55,200 on emergency 885 00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:57,680 uh emergency hostile 886 00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:58,800 actions 887 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,119 that's like the number one document yeah 888 00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:03,040 they came up with they were looking like 889 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:04,640 whether it was a missile or not but 890 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,640 that's always been intermingled flying 891 00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,520 disc unconventional aircraft 892 00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:11,040 could be associated with missile 893 00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:12,880 technology in fact 894 00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:14,800 discs in the early days many times they 895 00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:17,440 were referred to as missiles 896 00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:18,480 when somebody 897 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:19,599 they would refer to them as missiles 898 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:20,640 because that's what they're used to 899 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:23,200 thinking about right high speed objects 900 00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:24,720 going through the sky 901 00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:27,359 yeah well maybe they saw one crash too 902 00:41:33,190 --> 00:41:30,000 and it had quite the explosion 903 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,870 i don't know if anybody knows who kevin 904 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,119 randle is he runs a blog 905 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,520 yeah i've heard of him yeah i recommend 906 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:41,760 if you get over to his site uh 907 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,160 kevinrandle.blogspot.com 908 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,800 his latest article he's touching on an 909 00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,200 and on a blue book document 910 00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:50,720 i mean blue book case 911 00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,640 one of many as we know 912 00:41:55,829 --> 00:41:54,640 that's why i i commented and made sure 913 00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,839 to thank him for it because it's just 914 00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:57,359 one of many that people have never heard 915 00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:58,079 of 916 00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,520 and it's a crash 917 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,680 some kind of a crash report i mean it 918 00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,280 takes back off again 919 00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:05,760 but it's reported debris found and 920 00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,079 heineken involved it's pretty good i 921 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:10,240 recommend checking it out where was that 922 00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:13,440 at uh kevin randle's blog 923 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:16,079 dot blogspot.com is where his vlog is i 924 00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:17,920 have a project for you if you're 925 00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:22,230 um 926 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:25,920 starting i think it's october 16th it is 927 00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:28,640 uh that whole week is going to be called 928 00:42:35,750 --> 00:42:33,040 uh crash week right so they're every uh 929 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:35,760 streamer researcher and everything like 930 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:38,160 on twitter and everything like um 931 00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,720 we're all putting our efforts into 932 00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:42,560 uh crashes 933 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:46,079 okay you know and trying to find 934 00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:49,680 something you know whether it's yeah so 935 00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,760 whatever you got on that that's most 936 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,079 convincing 937 00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:56,560 that's why i am still get with me 25 938 00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:58,960 march because yeah everything i keep 939 00:43:03,670 --> 00:43:01,680 finding out including myriads if you 940 00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,680 were to go to fold three right now you 941 00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,040 know where the blue book documents are 942 00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,599 being held for for the archives go to 943 00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:10,000 old three if you're a basic membership 944 00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:11,680 it's free and you go there 945 00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:13,359 you type in the search engine in the 946 00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:15,520 blue book documents 947 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,359 25 march 1948 you will be surprised at 948 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:21,040 the different types of hits you're going 949 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:22,000 to get 950 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,280 because 951 00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,200 it just proves how important that date 952 00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,440 was for years afterwards not just for 953 00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:30,160 months after for years after they're 954 00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,319 citing that date 955 00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:34,160 for the authorization for why they're 956 00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:36,480 reporting this disk in this current up 957 00:43:39,750 --> 00:43:37,280 you know 958 00:43:41,990 --> 00:43:39,760 it was like 1957 and they're still 959 00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:42,000 citing at you know 960 00:43:47,510 --> 00:43:45,040 25 march 1948 army letter 961 00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:47,520 452.1 962 00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:49,200 still citing that as the authority 963 00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,119 because of that morning something 964 00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,599 happened i'm telling you and if it isn't 965 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:55,680 what people like scott ramsay have found 966 00:43:59,030 --> 00:43:57,760 to their witnesses that a disc was 967 00:44:01,270 --> 00:43:59,040 captured 968 00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,280 that would why that fits so perfectly 969 00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,560 come on 970 00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,880 how can i ignore that 971 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:06,800 yeah people didn't know me that's really 972 00:44:12,069 --> 00:44:10,160 my point of dragging it in is obviously 973 00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:12,079 and there's so many 974 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:14,000 around that time too there were so many 975 00:44:16,230 --> 00:44:15,280 other 976 00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:16,240 uh 977 00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,440 alleged 978 00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:19,040 crashes 979 00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,400 in dogfights 980 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,880 they investigated a bunch of them 981 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:24,880 mm-hmm 982 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,119 because one was mantel that was 983 00:44:32,150 --> 00:44:29,760 50 that's 48 minutes later 984 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,160 see that happens right before 985 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:34,480 the march 25th see there's 986 00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,000 interesting 987 00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:39,040 february they put sign together february 988 00:44:43,109 --> 00:44:41,520 11th 1948 it's it's 989 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:43,119 official so 990 00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,160 maybe sign kind of ruffled these things 991 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:47,680 feathers 992 00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:48,480 yeah 993 00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:49,599 so i'll tell 994 00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,680 there's another example of that 995 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:53,920 and it dovetails with this case january 996 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,880 6 1950 the wyandot echo 997 00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,040 publishes an article about a disk being 998 00:45:02,390 --> 00:45:00,960 found in bodies inside everything first 999 00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:02,400 time something like that actually comes 1000 00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,680 out it's before frank scully 1001 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:06,800 and 1002 00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,599 what 1003 00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:08,960 something happened 1004 00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,880 no i just said well 1005 00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:11,839 yeah 1006 00:45:21,109 --> 00:45:20,150 i'm seeing there's so many cases 1007 00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:21,119 where 1008 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:22,720 this thing gets published in the 1009 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:25,200 newspaper the osi of all people get 1010 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,800 involved and they start investigating 1011 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,880 who leaked this information so that it 1012 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:31,359 got published in this newspaper that 1013 00:45:35,589 --> 00:45:32,720 seems to be what they're most interested 1014 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:35,599 in what's really fascinating is the same 1015 00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:38,319 night that thing gets published ufos 1016 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,079 come discs actually 1017 00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:42,240 three of them come and hover over the 1018 00:45:51,349 --> 00:45:48,630 not kidding it's in the files 1019 00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:51,359 oh my god that's awesome 1020 00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:53,680 very nice that the newspaper publishes 1021 00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:55,280 this article 1022 00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,319 wow 1023 00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:57,760 so i brought that up as you were saying 1024 00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:59,760 you know the connection there you know 1025 00:46:02,390 --> 00:46:01,599 yeah you know there are many types like 1026 00:46:04,790 --> 00:46:02,400 that 1027 00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,800 thanks for leading me on to the uh the 1028 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:05,760 actual 1029 00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:09,119 like newspaper articles because there is 1030 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,319 so much information in there in those 1031 00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,079 you have you know you got to be wary or 1032 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:16,720 whatever but um yeah there's and there's 1033 00:46:21,190 --> 00:46:19,040 so there's a plethora 1034 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:21,200 there's so many articles all over the 1035 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:22,240 world 1036 00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,440 in that time 1037 00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,680 it's really crazy 1038 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:28,880 you have to overlay the press stuff with 1039 00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,880 them you can't just read the blue book 1040 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:32,720 documents you have to see what was 1041 00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,359 reported in the press 1042 00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:37,839 yeah man tells one of them 1043 00:46:41,589 --> 00:46:39,520 we always get told 1044 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:41,599 really quick after he passed out and he 1045 00:46:45,589 --> 00:46:44,319 didn't it was like 40 minutes 1046 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:45,599 yeah what's up 1047 00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:48,960 yeah 45 minutes 45 minutes right yeah 1048 00:46:52,950 --> 00:46:51,440 you have to get that by reading the in 1049 00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:52,960 interviews with the witnesses that were 1050 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:55,280 there and that's in the press 1051 00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:57,599 and they're clear he he was flying 1052 00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,119 around all over his plane was doing all 1053 00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,800 kinds of things flying back and forth 1054 00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:01,520 and 1055 00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,640 one guy said it sounded like the poor 1056 00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:06,560 devil was lost 1057 00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,480 that's not a plane coming in and a dive 1058 00:47:14,230 --> 00:47:12,240 no it's not 1059 00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,240 did you see the picture of it crashed on 1060 00:47:17,349 --> 00:47:16,000 the ground too you saw that i've seen a 1061 00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,359 couple there's some pictures in the blue 1062 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:19,839 files scott ramsey has seen some in the 1063 00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:22,400 actual archives at the air force 1064 00:47:27,030 --> 00:47:24,800 archives he said they were really clear 1065 00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,040 and one thing he noticed is the damage 1066 00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,160 to the fuselage is way less than it make 1067 00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:32,240 than the ones we've seen so far and it 1068 00:47:35,510 --> 00:47:33,760 really made it interesting it looked 1069 00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:35,520 like the only thing that happened 1070 00:47:38,870 --> 00:47:37,200 in reality was mainly the main damage 1071 00:47:40,549 --> 00:47:38,880 the tail section 1072 00:47:43,109 --> 00:47:40,559 is somehow 1073 00:47:44,069 --> 00:47:43,119 disengaged and his wings collapse and 1074 00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:44,079 they 1075 00:47:48,470 --> 00:47:45,760 but nobody can really explain the 1076 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:48,480 explosion they always explained it they 1077 00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:50,480 the experts that we've listened to 1078 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,760 they always explain the explosion that 1079 00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:53,359 it was over speed 1080 00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:54,400 you know and it reached over but 1081 00:47:58,069 --> 00:47:55,760 remember we're talking about a p51 1082 00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,079 mustang this thing was designed to dive 1083 00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,319 bomb and give it you know and i looked 1084 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:02,160 together i'm telling you 1085 00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:04,480 i'm not just blown smoke i tried my best 1086 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,069 two things i found that fascinated me if 1087 00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,480 you were to let go of the stick 1088 00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:14,000 it would immediately start pitching to 1089 00:48:15,990 --> 00:48:15,119 the left 1090 00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,000 oh 1091 00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:17,680 and remember he had it trimmed for 1092 00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,240 climbing the back rudders trimmed angled 1093 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:23,520 up to go up so if he were unconscious 1094 00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:25,119 immediately what happened they would 1095 00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,960 have kept kind of going 1096 00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,559 left immediately 1097 00:48:33,670 --> 00:48:30,400 i believe that's what happened and that 1098 00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:33,680 happened at 3 18 in the afternoon right 1099 00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,839 and was turning away to peel back 1100 00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,119 well 1101 00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,079 and that's in the press 1102 00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:44,000 i'm blabbing but you were on the subject 1103 00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:45,040 they're perfect 1104 00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,400 yeah no i i 1105 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,559 like kevin randle dr randall 1106 00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,720 he thinks cases like the child's witted 1107 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:52,160 case are solved 1108 00:48:54,630 --> 00:48:53,440 which is 1109 00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:54,640 okay 1110 00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,000 but 1111 00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:58,319 charles if you interview again if you 1112 00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:00,480 watch the read the interviews with the 1113 00:49:05,270 --> 00:49:02,880 captain and his co-pilot that were taken 1114 00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,280 the very day that this happened in july 1115 00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,720 48 1116 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,319 of the it's the rocket shape thing with 1117 00:49:11,829 --> 00:49:10,079 the double windows going down the side 1118 00:49:13,510 --> 00:49:11,839 you probably 1119 00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:13,520 the argument was like kevin randle would 1120 00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,000 say it's a bolide because of the type of 1121 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,680 bullets that can break up and look like 1122 00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:19,599 there's like rows of maybe windows or 1123 00:49:23,430 --> 00:49:22,160 something did you see this daisy chain 1124 00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:23,440 or something like that 1125 00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,359 you ever see this 1126 00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:27,280 yeah these are from the uh air 1127 00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:30,319 intelligence files about okay about uh 1128 00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:31,920 captain mantell 1129 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:35,750 because what's this statement on a 1130 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:39,359 cone-shaped object is that what 1131 00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:42,000 uh that's the way it appeared to command 1132 00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:43,680 the colonel hicks 1133 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:45,200 right before it disappeared in the 1134 00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:47,839 clouds wow they were comparing it to 1135 00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,640 possible balloon sightings uh that had 1136 00:49:53,670 --> 00:49:51,920 been released 1137 00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:53,680 from not too far away that had nothing 1138 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,640 to do with 1139 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,720 the case they found out 1140 00:50:00,870 --> 00:49:59,040 you know the the cone shape thing is 1141 00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:00,880 very common too 1142 00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:02,880 and reported several times yeah 1143 00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:04,559 yeah 1144 00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,960 i'll try to i i babbled but there's so 1145 00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:10,240 much to i always feel that there's so 1146 00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,240 much i want me people to know because 1147 00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,559 they don't i know they don't know this 1148 00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:15,839 and 1149 00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,720 charles captain charles or witted which 1150 00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:20,880 one when he looked out the window and 1151 00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:23,040 saw this thing coming at them this is 1152 00:50:25,670 --> 00:50:24,160 july 1153 00:50:29,349 --> 00:50:25,680 24th 1154 00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:29,359 july 2 1948 after the crash landing in 1155 00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:32,400 aztec these guys are pilots 1156 00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,119 and 1157 00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,280 over montgomery alabama this rocket ship 1158 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:37,200 thing just misses them and goes into a 1159 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:39,359 club he said it had two rows of windows 1160 00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:40,880 going down the sides what's important 1161 00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,920 though is 1162 00:50:45,990 --> 00:50:43,760 the reason it can't be a bow light is 1163 00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,000 because the captain was sure 1164 00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:47,839 he could see through it he could see it 1165 00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:50,960 was hollow except glowing inside like 1166 00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:52,480 like burning gas 1167 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,559 maybe he was guessing but there were 1168 00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,400 rows of windows on the other side too 1169 00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,240 and he was looking through it 1170 00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,559 well he described it that way 1171 00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:02,880 but if you don't include that in the air 1172 00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:04,640 intelligence reports 1173 00:51:09,670 --> 00:51:07,280 you you miss that part of the story 1174 00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:09,680 interesting yeah so you have to combine 1175 00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,000 things press reports and combine them 1176 00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:14,400 with the documents together 1177 00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,400 the press reports are probably more 1178 00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:18,880 inclined to give it to you like they're 1179 00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:19,920 told 1180 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:21,440 right especially if it's really soon 1181 00:51:24,790 --> 00:51:22,480 after 1182 00:51:26,390 --> 00:51:24,800 and spectacular 1183 00:51:28,549 --> 00:51:26,400 like windows 1184 00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:28,559 yeah and rows of windows right through 1185 00:51:34,870 --> 00:51:31,839 it he said to the other side 1186 00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:34,880 do you think what's your feeling on um 1187 00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,480 like so when they're making up these 1188 00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,160 reports and everything do you think 1189 00:51:41,190 --> 00:51:40,000 there was maybe some sort of directive 1190 00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:41,200 to not 1191 00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:44,240 um list particular things on these 1192 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:47,440 documents because 1193 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:49,760 yeah you know somebody might see that 1194 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,400 and 1195 00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:51,359 you know 1196 00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:52,319 whatever 1197 00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,880 i even see that as you go through if you 1198 00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:56,240 read some of the i don't know how many 1199 00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:58,000 have you read any intelligence advisory 1200 00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:00,800 community uh meetings the the the 1201 00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:02,319 minutes of meetings yeah yeah the 1202 00:52:07,349 --> 00:52:05,280 committee meetings any of them when they 1203 00:52:09,349 --> 00:52:07,359 even have secret meetings that from 1204 00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:09,359 subgroups of them you read those 1205 00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,359 meetings even and they're top secret at 1206 00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:13,040 the time 1207 00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:15,119 but you can tell when they're talking 1208 00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,559 and these you can picture these are in a 1209 00:52:19,910 --> 00:52:19,200 really secret room probably bet built 1210 00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:19,920 for 1211 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:22,319 quiet and secrecy you know they're still 1212 00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:23,280 talking 1213 00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,520 like they think somebody's listening 1214 00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,440 yeah because they'll they'll talk about 1215 00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,960 things and you go oh i know what he's 1216 00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:30,720 talking about that's blah blah but when 1217 00:52:34,630 --> 00:52:32,720 they're in that meeting they're not just 1218 00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,640 coming around and going okay frank you 1219 00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,400 know that disc we just picked up last 1220 00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,400 friday you know right 1221 00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:40,400 yeah why is that you think you think uh 1222 00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:42,079 because the 1223 00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:45,839 aliens can read their brain boy are 1224 00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,599 very good question who would be who 1225 00:52:50,549 --> 00:52:49,280 would they think is listening 1226 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:50,559 right 1227 00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:52,000 crazy 1228 00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,440 you can see it for yourself you go 1229 00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:56,319 through and you go why are they being so 1230 00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,760 yeah 1231 00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:59,200 because what's what's the point of the 1232 00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,119 meetings and 1233 00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:03,599 if you can't just be frank you know 1234 00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:06,880 exactly that's my point exactly yeah 1235 00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:08,640 and if if not there'd be big black 1236 00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:10,800 splotches where it's where they were but 1237 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:12,079 that's not right 1238 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:14,480 there's hardly any blocked out areas no 1239 00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,920 i can actually bring up an example 1240 00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:19,839 uh because 1241 00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:22,800 yeah i i love those because you're just 1242 00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:25,680 like a fly on the wall almost you know 1243 00:53:28,630 --> 00:53:26,839 exactly 1244 00:53:30,309 --> 00:53:28,640 yeah it's pretty interesting we would be 1245 00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:30,319 reading these either that's not the 1246 00:53:31,990 --> 00:53:31,200 answer 1247 00:53:34,069 --> 00:53:32,000 yeah 1248 00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:34,079 true to why they're being so tongue and 1249 00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,839 cheeky i mean 1250 00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:37,839 right but because yeah 1251 00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,319 i mean are we thinking of what 1252 00:53:44,130 --> 00:53:42,880 people are gonna see in 1253 00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:44,140 you know 20 80. 1254 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:46,319 [Laughter] 1255 00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:48,160 are we carrying 1256 00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:54,829 do you think by the year 1257 00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:58,640 3000 will have something figured out 1258 00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:00,000 yeah i don't know that's what the thing 1259 00:54:04,230 --> 00:54:02,640 is it just keeps going around and around 1260 00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:04,240 and around we keep finding ourselves in 1261 00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:06,960 the same spot all over again it's like 1262 00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,079 that movie groundhog day yeah it feels 1263 00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:12,400 sometimes and i know someone that i'm 1264 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:14,640 not even one of the older ufology type 1265 00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,240 people i'm not i'm gonna know he is 1266 00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:17,680 better but i just happen to have been 1267 00:54:20,950 --> 00:54:19,280 doing it for a long time 1268 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:20,960 but some of these older men just think 1269 00:54:26,710 --> 00:54:22,720 how they feel they're looking and just 1270 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:26,720 going [\h__\h] joe this is only 852. 1271 00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,760 what's it gonna take you know 1272 00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,680 and here we are again 1273 00:54:33,910 --> 00:54:32,800 yeah 1274 00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:33,920 so 1275 00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:40,720 maybe these things are just especially 1276 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:42,559 if the psychological aspect and 1277 00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:44,559 everything is it seems to be panning out 1278 00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:46,640 to be accurate um 1279 00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:49,599 maybe it's all like on purpose 1280 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,960 done to us 1281 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,480 you know yeah 1282 00:54:56,950 --> 00:54:54,559 keep us running in circles 1283 00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:56,960 when people like you begin to explore 1284 00:55:02,470 --> 00:54:59,440 you know because you had your experience 1285 00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,480 you cannot help but immediately go off 1286 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:04,160 in a completely other direction and 1287 00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:05,200 start exploring things you never 1288 00:55:09,510 --> 00:55:07,440 explored before mentally 1289 00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:09,520 psychically spiritually 1290 00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,319 so 1291 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:12,240 that i mean that's why i i think 1292 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:14,400 logically speaking part of the answer 1293 00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:15,760 has to be there 1294 00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,520 yeah i think so 1295 00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,599 which is actually to me it's whether you 1296 00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,280 call believe in a god or anything like 1297 00:55:25,349 --> 00:55:23,280 that and separately but to me things 1298 00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,359 like that give me hope that 1299 00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,079 there is quality in the universe or 1300 00:55:31,829 --> 00:55:30,160 there are quality beings in the universe 1301 00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:31,839 that come and go 1302 00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,280 that don't want to eat us 1303 00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,680 but maybe they don't even want to overly 1304 00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:40,000 bless us but they're friendly and they 1305 00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,680 want to help in somewhere i don't have 1306 00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:43,920 any problem with that i see evidence for 1307 00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,480 that but i also have seen evidence which 1308 00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:49,040 i've sent you some which is i think why 1309 00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,119 i'm still interested in separating the 1310 00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,520 physical flying disk stories 1311 00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,079 from all the other stuff because 1312 00:56:01,349 --> 00:55:58,960 they seem to be associated with possible 1313 00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:01,359 military interactions with 1314 00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:04,000 and airline accidents possibly including 1315 00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:06,480 one i sent you of that p-80 that crashed 1316 00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:15,190 by the by train tracks or something 1317 00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,480 wasn't it 1318 00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:18,240 there's train tracks nearby in a gas 1319 00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,280 station 1320 00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,920 yeah and what's weird is the report was 1321 00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:23,680 that he had flown out of riverside this 1322 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,799 is july 18th 1947 anybody's curious 1323 00:56:29,589 --> 00:56:28,240 this guy 1324 00:56:32,390 --> 00:56:29,599 uh air force 1325 00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:32,400 in a p 80 the same kind that we already 1326 00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:34,000 knew were being decked out with 1327 00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:35,599 surveillance equipment to hunt for the 1328 00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,000 saucers that's unknown it's not some 1329 00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:40,319 fantasy anybody has they were doing that 1330 00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,200 they were hot on that the army was hot 1331 00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:45,119 on that yeah 1332 00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,119 this day this 1333 00:56:51,270 --> 00:56:48,799 i have had this confirmed through the 1334 00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,280 files again that air force files 1335 00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:52,960 that this plane was 1336 00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:56,720 was uh met it was um assigned 1337 00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,720 to land on the highway because they were 1338 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:00,880 very deserted highways 1339 00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:03,760 he was assigned on the highway there to 1340 00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:05,920 still cover for the remnants of the 1341 00:57:11,030 --> 00:57:09,119 roswell cleanup that was still going on 1342 00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:11,040 he was staying it was near 1343 00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,079 corzozo new mexico is where this was 1344 00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:16,240 and the story is that 1345 00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:17,359 a disc 1346 00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:19,680 was indeed cited and he was vectored to 1347 00:57:24,710 --> 00:57:22,400 take off and intercept by ground 1348 00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:24,720 ground control intercept 1349 00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:27,119 something happened and he lost control 1350 00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:29,839 of his plane and it veered to the left 1351 00:57:34,470 --> 00:57:32,000 of all things and went 1352 00:57:35,430 --> 00:57:34,480 to that gas station killing one young 1353 00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,440 man and 1354 00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,359 injuring killing him and another young 1355 00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:39,440 man and i think and injuring somebody 1356 00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:41,359 else in in the fire 1357 00:57:45,750 --> 00:57:43,599 no did you find uh like a 1358 00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:45,760 incident report or anything on it 1359 00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:49,280 uh scott ramsey did when he was down at 1360 00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:51,520 the archives uh it was read to him he 1361 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,799 wasn't allowed 1362 00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:54,880 they found there were two reports 1363 00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:57,760 there was the one given to the press 1364 00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:59,359 and the one that he wasn't allowed to 1365 00:58:02,470 --> 00:58:00,799 read but 1366 00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:02,480 the the head of the one he wasn't 1367 00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,880 allowed to read couldn't leave this 1368 00:58:07,910 --> 00:58:05,680 other 1369 00:58:09,990 --> 00:58:07,920 set and then the archive was founded by 1370 00:58:11,750 --> 00:58:10,000 accident actually he was going through 1371 00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,760 to go get it and he realized wait what's 1372 00:58:15,750 --> 00:58:13,839 this and he pulled this other file out 1373 00:58:17,589 --> 00:58:15,760 and it was a whole other file on this 1374 00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:17,599 accident air accident yeah what's 1375 00:58:22,789 --> 00:58:18,640 interesting 1376 00:58:26,230 --> 00:58:22,799 is uh dr mcdonald right he was the case 1377 00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:26,240 he investigated for iaa 1378 00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,920 it was like ufo encounter one or 1379 00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:29,520 something it's called 1380 00:58:31,589 --> 00:58:30,319 um 1381 00:58:33,190 --> 00:58:31,599 initially 1382 00:58:34,549 --> 00:58:33,200 he couldn't find the files for it they 1383 00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,559 weren't where they were supposed to be 1384 00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:36,640 and he found them in a completely 1385 00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:38,400 different district's 1386 00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,680 case files 1387 00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:41,359 and he finally found them and was able 1388 00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:43,920 to do this report so sometimes i wonder 1389 00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,000 if the answer 1390 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,230 in the wrong files 1391 00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:55,270 i found a uh aztec document in the blue 1392 00:59:00,150 --> 00:58:57,680 book files it's referring to 1393 00:59:02,150 --> 00:59:00,160 to newton and 1394 00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,160 bruce abbott the actor who's the one who 1395 00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:04,400 turned silent 1396 00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,920 well this document is dealing with that 1397 00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,680 and yet handwritten in the top it says 1398 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:09,599 mari island and that's where i found it 1399 00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:12,880 it was in the mari island files so 1400 00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:14,880 jl and heineck are 1401 00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,640 or jay allen heidi 1402 00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,640 jacques or jalen hynix that's whose 1403 00:59:22,150 --> 00:59:20,240 handwriting that's got to be so they 1404 00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,160 must have misfiled that 1405 00:59:25,990 --> 00:59:24,240 in the mari island case for some reason 1406 00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:26,000 i don't know i think it's do you think 1407 00:59:31,030 --> 00:59:28,480 it's misfiled or hit 1408 00:59:32,390 --> 00:59:31,040 that's what i mean it it was misfiled 1409 00:59:34,150 --> 00:59:32,400 and i found it by accident i'm sure 1410 00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,160 other people have two but 1411 00:59:38,309 --> 00:59:36,559 it was not i was looking at maury island 1412 00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:38,319 and i came across this one i went well 1413 00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:44,230 this goes with this 1414 00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:46,319 idiot 1415 00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:47,680 he's an interesting guy too he's an 1416 00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:48,720 actor 1417 00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:50,480 he was the one that turned silas newton 1418 01:00:03,990 --> 00:59:51,440 in 1419 01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,230 so i could see now later he's on the 1420 01:00:11,589 --> 01:00:08,079 golf course he's probably thinking oh i 1421 01:00:13,910 --> 01:00:11,599 could get in good with my old bosses 1422 01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:13,920 you know yeah and silas newton he's 1423 01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:15,760 talking about flying sausage 1424 01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,240 i'll look good if i turn him in 1425 01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,799 and so he did to the fbi 1426 01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:23,280 freaking rats see i'm off people don't 1427 01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:24,400 even know what i'm talking about right 1428 01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:26,880 now what what you talking about yeah 1429 01:00:31,270 --> 01:00:29,839 well hey we hit the hour mark so 1430 01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:31,280 i didn't mean to 1431 01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,559 my main thing was those early documents 1432 01:00:38,549 --> 01:00:36,720 they did they do really have to do with 1433 01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,559 this so yeah go back you'll see 1434 01:00:41,990 --> 01:00:40,559 that one with that says tdo the 1435 01:00:43,190 --> 01:00:42,000 technology development 1436 01:00:45,829 --> 01:00:43,200 weapons group 1437 01:00:47,589 --> 01:00:45,839 that's atik and the ftd combined 1438 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,599 together foreign technology 1439 01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:49,200 that's that's the 1440 01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:52,079 office they were in charge of the ufos 1441 01:00:56,549 --> 01:00:53,680 because i thought they switched over 1442 01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:56,559 from atec to ftd so they were 1443 01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:58,240 co-existing they worked together it's 1444 01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,280 all see the way it was was uh 1445 01:01:05,580 --> 01:01:03,599 i'll try to do this quickly yeah use 1446 01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:05,590 your hands 1447 01:01:09,589 --> 01:01:07,839 [Laughter] 1448 01:01:11,750 --> 01:01:09,599 air of course 1449 01:01:12,630 --> 01:01:11,760 no i don't know as long as i should 1450 01:01:14,710 --> 01:01:12,640 uh 1451 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:14,720 it's called assistant chief of staff 1452 01:01:19,030 --> 01:01:16,480 intelligence 1453 01:01:20,950 --> 01:01:19,040 okay the army had assistant chief of 1454 01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:20,960 stalin's intelligence ground 1455 01:01:24,950 --> 01:01:23,280 intelligence the air force had assistant 1456 01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,960 chief of staff intelligence air 1457 01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:26,559 intelligence a2 1458 01:01:31,270 --> 01:01:28,880 those two combined together 1459 01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:31,280 liaisoning worked with air defense 1460 01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,640 command and they were the ones truly 1461 01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:37,040 under assistant chief of tavern staff 1462 01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:38,160 and children they were in charge of the 1463 01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:42,240 ufo program okay so a tick ftd all these 1464 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,680 people there were some 1465 01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:45,520 offices under this 1466 01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,880 officialdom of aaron of uh air force 1467 01:01:54,630 --> 01:01:50,960 intelligence 1468 01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:54,640 man that has to be see because we know 1469 01:01:57,270 --> 01:01:56,559 blue book we know sun 1470 01:02:03,510 --> 01:01:57,280 and 1471 01:02:07,270 --> 01:02:03,520 octopuses arm 1472 01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,280 of the real ufo program which was 1473 01:02:11,349 --> 01:02:10,079 made up of multiple groups they've been 1474 01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,359 there are multipliers right now that 1475 01:02:15,270 --> 01:02:13,760 have been lying to us yeah totally 1476 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:15,280 they've got to believe they're doing it 1477 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:17,520 for our good otherwise we have to 1478 01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:19,680 believe they're bad guys you would think 1479 01:02:23,029 --> 01:02:20,400 so 1480 01:02:25,430 --> 01:02:23,039 i know that's i know that's the problem 1481 01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,440 yeah all right well here we go 1482 01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:27,680 until i think i'm going extra long 1483 01:02:32,789 --> 01:02:31,039 because uh spaghetti wants to talk so 1484 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:32,799 don't stop doing that stop being 1485 01:02:38,309 --> 01:02:36,160 apologetic you're uh contributing and i 1486 01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:38,319 actually needed needed you to do that 1487 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:49,750 dr kos lov he was head of nro 1488 01:02:53,670 --> 01:02:51,829 so go check that out it's definitely the 1489 01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:53,680 watch committee it's just you're seeing 1490 01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,559 it from the back door afnan 1491 01:03:00,630 --> 01:02:58,400 and other groups that you don't usually 1492 01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:00,640 see associated but they're all part of 1493 01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:03,200 the same thing 1494 01:03:05,270 --> 01:03:04,000 cool 1495 01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:05,280 i can't i'm going to look into that 1496 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,599 tonight my lady's working so i got i got 1497 01:03:11,029 --> 01:03:09,359 some time 1498 01:03:14,150 --> 01:03:11,039 you're going to be turning gray before 1499 01:03:14,829 --> 01:03:14,160 away before your time 1500 01:03:18,549 --> 01:03:14,839 all 1501 01:03:20,230 --> 01:03:18,559 right i appreciate you brother um 1502 01:03:22,390 --> 01:03:20,240 yeah looking forward to talking tomorrow 1503 01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:22,400 and later in the week all right you take 1504 01:03:31,510 --> 01:03:29,109 all right so 1505 01:03:33,990 --> 01:03:31,520 um it looks like 1506 01:03:37,029 --> 01:03:34,000 uh spaghetti wants to talk and i'm cool 1507 01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:37,039 with that i just gonna take a breather 1508 01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:38,480 um 1509 01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:40,960 so i'll take a breather and then we will 1510 01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:42,559 bring 1511 01:03:48,789 --> 01:03:47,829 so 1512 01:03:50,710 --> 01:03:48,799 just 1513 01:06:52,630 --> 01:03:50,720 hang 1514 01:06:58,870 --> 01:06:54,549 all right i'm back 1515 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:02,470 we're gonna bring spaghetti in i think 1516 01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,470 but he's not here so 1517 01:07:08,630 --> 01:07:06,640 he better 1518 01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:08,640 you better show up quick or i'm just 1519 01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:14,789 thanks robert for coming by 1520 01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,119 helping out 1521 01:07:23,910 --> 01:07:19,280 i do appreciate that 1522 01:07:29,750 --> 01:07:25,109 so 1523 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:29,760 um just give me a sec here and we will 1524 01:07:36,060 --> 01:07:34,500 [Applause] 1525 01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:36,070 [Music] 1526 01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:37,230 [Applause] 1527 01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:42,480 [Music] 1528 01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:51,910 [Laughter] 1529 01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:01,800 me 1530 01:08:19,849 --> 01:08:03,020 [Applause] 1531 01:08:23,769 --> 01:08:20,240 [Music] 1532 01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:23,779 [Laughter] 1533 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:32,630 all right 1534 01:08:36,470 --> 01:08:34,400 now we reset the room we had a great 1535 01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:36,480 talk with 1536 01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:39,199 uh mr robert covert that was fantastic 1537 01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:40,880 i'm happy that he comes along and helps 1538 01:08:44,229 --> 01:08:42,640 me out with that historical reference 1539 01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,239 most definitely 1540 01:08:48,550 --> 01:08:45,920 um and 1541 01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:48,560 if spaghetti is ready 1542 01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:54,550 that's got to be a song right 1543 01:08:59,349 --> 01:08:57,600 if spaghetti is ready 1544 01:09:03,269 --> 01:08:59,359 is spaghetti ready 1545 01:09:04,829 --> 01:09:03,279 spaghetti's ready but you haven't been 1546 01:09:09,510 --> 01:09:04,839 oh really i don't have 1547 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,470 yeah but 1548 01:09:13,430 --> 01:09:11,839 yeah so what's up with you what do you 1549 01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:13,440 want to talk about man 1550 01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:14,799 hold on a minute 1551 01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:15,600 sure 1552 01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:18,080 all right i think i just finished 1553 01:09:22,429 --> 01:09:20,319 i just realized oh boy i never do this 1554 01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,439 you got full metals full metal spaghetti 1555 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,239 [Laughter] 1556 01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,560 awesome i love it sorry man 1557 01:09:31,030 --> 01:09:28,719 i love it how are your ears best hair 1558 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:31,040 and you followed you right the best 1559 01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:33,040 best hair come on i got giorgio from 1560 01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:34,960 ancient aliens ain't got nothing on this 1561 01:09:39,030 --> 01:09:37,120 this are you are you talking to that mic 1562 01:09:41,430 --> 01:09:39,040 or is that your computer mike 1563 01:09:42,870 --> 01:09:41,440 hold on is that different 1564 01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:42,880 yeah i think you're using the computer 1565 01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,239 mic 1566 01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:45,839 how's that 1567 01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:47,839 i mean i get i can hear you but i don't 1568 01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:50,400 think you're going to like yesterday 1569 01:09:55,030 --> 01:09:53,520 so go down to where it says cam mic yeah 1570 01:09:58,390 --> 01:09:55,040 hand mic 1571 01:10:02,149 --> 01:09:58,400 and then you go audio 1572 01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,159 usb live camera is that better 1573 01:10:06,310 --> 01:10:04,080 and then you get your mic there and then 1574 01:10:08,310 --> 01:10:06,320 speaker 1575 01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:08,320 um 1576 01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,110 oh now you're just cut yeah that's 1577 01:10:19,669 --> 01:10:17,760 better i can't hear you at all so 1578 01:10:21,110 --> 01:10:19,679 [Laughter] 1579 01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:21,120 just looking still 1580 01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:22,719 all right this is this is good this 1581 01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:26,080 works yeah you're good yeah 1582 01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:26,960 yep 1583 01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:29,199 i'm sorry it's rookie mistakes man 1584 01:10:33,590 --> 01:10:31,280 oh don't don't worry about it brother i 1585 01:10:35,510 --> 01:10:33,600 can hear you 1586 01:10:37,270 --> 01:10:35,520 before we begin anything i have to do 1587 01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,280 something has to be done here something 1588 01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:39,760 has to be done 1589 01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:41,920 no it's out of love it's out of love 1590 01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:44,000 it's an intervention out of love i got 1591 01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:47,280 to do an intervention on you brother 1592 01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:48,960 you're going to have to properly learn 1593 01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:52,320 to pronounce the name jack valet 1594 01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:53,280 jacques 1595 01:11:05,110 --> 01:10:56,239 jack ass forway is not going to fly no 1596 01:11:10,870 --> 01:11:08,950 all right i'm saying it the right way 1597 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:10,880 for french pronunciation 1598 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:21,910 yep hey i didn't i didn't make the name 1599 01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:24,400 that's just what it is 1600 01:11:31,990 --> 01:11:30,709 yeah well i appreciate it i'll i'll i'll 1601 01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:32,000 think about it 1602 01:11:34,150 --> 01:11:33,840 i'll just come i'll just call him jack 1603 01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,160 val 1604 01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:36,400 [Laughter] 1605 01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:37,760 you don't have to add the extra 1606 01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,709 all right you got it jacques valet going 1607 01:11:47,110 --> 01:11:44,880 jack valley just americanized the hell 1608 01:11:48,010 --> 01:11:47,120 out of it jack jack 1609 01:11:50,790 --> 01:11:48,020 jack val 1610 01:11:52,709 --> 01:11:50,800 [Laughter] 1611 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:52,719 i think roger that i think you're 1612 01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:57,830 fine 1613 01:12:02,950 --> 01:12:00,880 okay hey robert man that guy robert is 1614 01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:02,960 amazing with his uh 1615 01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:05,040 legitimate research man that guy that 1616 01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:08,000 guy's document now that guy gets into it 1617 01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,360 yeah 1618 01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,840 and that's like straight up because you 1619 01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:13,040 can use 1620 01:12:16,229 --> 01:12:14,400 you know what the government's produced 1621 01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:16,239 against them 1622 01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:17,600 you know 1623 01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:21,120 man i admire people that get in there 1624 01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,360 and actually look at the details you 1625 01:12:27,990 --> 01:12:25,199 know get in there and see that stuff and 1626 01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:28,000 that date in 1948 is important things 1627 01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,239 did change suddenly 1628 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:31,520 um 1629 01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,520 but i think you could trace it back even 1630 01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,600 right to immediately after roswell 1631 01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:37,920 immediately after roswell the cia is put 1632 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:39,760 into play is created 1633 01:12:44,310 --> 01:12:42,159 the air force becomes a separate 1634 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:44,320 uh branch of the military breaks away 1635 01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,080 from the army although i'm sure that was 1636 01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:48,239 planned before as well but that yeah 1637 01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:50,719 that's the around the the national 1638 01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,920 security act that's 47 right right yeah 1639 01:12:55,990 --> 01:12:54,800 yeah 1640 01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:56,000 and um 1641 01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,320 but there are these dates now we have to 1642 01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:00,400 find the date the exact date can be 1643 01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,520 found for when supposedly eisenhower met 1644 01:13:07,510 --> 01:13:05,760 with the et's at edwards air force base 1645 01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:07,520 that date can be found 1646 01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,520 somebody's dropping it's in uh richard 1647 01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:12,000 dolan's book well look the president is 1648 01:13:15,990 --> 01:13:13,520 you know everything he does every day 1649 01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:16,000 his itinerary is public we know what 1650 01:13:20,149 --> 01:13:17,520 he's doing for that day even if it's a 1651 01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,159 day off they'll say he took a day off 1652 01:13:25,270 --> 01:13:22,400 but he was on a trip to california he 1653 01:13:27,510 --> 01:13:25,280 had a an engagement in san diego and 1654 01:13:28,950 --> 01:13:27,520 suddenly they called it off for a dental 1655 01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:28,960 emergency 1656 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,440 and according to gordon cooper at least 1657 01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:33,600 the astronaut gordon cooper there was a 1658 01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,400 meeting at edwards air force base where 1659 01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:38,880 again according to gordon cooper 1660 01:13:43,990 --> 01:13:42,080 and a craft landed and the et's met with 1661 01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:44,000 eisenhower 1662 01:13:47,110 --> 01:13:45,280 who knows 1663 01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,120 that would be intense it would be 1664 01:13:55,350 --> 01:13:53,510 is eisenhower's public uh library is 1665 01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,360 that on the national archives i would 1666 01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,920 assume right or no i would think so yeah 1667 01:14:02,149 --> 01:13:59,360 i would think so 1668 01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,159 or i don't know where the snoop 1669 01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:04,640 his his uh his granddaughter is um out 1670 01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:07,199 there i've seen her somewhere in ufology 1671 01:14:12,630 --> 01:14:08,880 circles she's out there 1672 01:14:18,390 --> 01:14:12,640 talking about this stuff yeah so cool 1673 01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:20,310 congratulations on this harry reid thing 1674 01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,000 man and i'd love to join you tomorrow 1675 01:14:27,270 --> 01:14:24,480 and i may be able to do it if it goes 1676 01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:27,280 down on time i could probably do it i'm 1677 01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:29,199 going to be cutting my train close 1678 01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:31,440 because i have to go into the city 1679 01:14:34,709 --> 01:14:33,040 yeah don't work don't worry it's just 1680 01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:34,719 going to be me and him for an hour you 1681 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,640 could always watch the 1682 01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,400 well i'll rerun 1683 01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:39,920 i'll watch it on the train it's just 1684 01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:43,199 like i don't i can't yeah but uh you 1685 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:44,719 know you're going to do all right with 1686 01:14:48,229 --> 01:14:46,960 him just i i even i think i emailed you 1687 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:48,239 some questions last week when i thought 1688 01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:50,480 it was going to be on yeah 1689 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:52,960 yeah i grabbed a few of those for sure 1690 01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,400 yeah i mean though i'm sure you were 1691 01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:57,520 going most of those anyway but um 1692 01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:00,560 yeah ask them if it's possible to 1693 01:15:05,110 --> 01:15:03,520 amend ndas or give temporary on ndas 1694 01:15:07,110 --> 01:15:05,120 that's the thing and that's going why 1695 01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,120 they kept that secret for so long that's 1696 01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,199 what the only two i would hit him with 1697 01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:11,280 yeah well it's going to be a different 1698 01:15:14,870 --> 01:15:12,880 kind of interview it's not like i'm 1699 01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:14,880 interviewing you or anyone else you know 1700 01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,239 there's uh 1701 01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,520 an assistant that i have to you know 1702 01:15:25,270 --> 01:15:22,400 yeah no dick jokes with this guy okay 1703 01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,280 just straight to it 1704 01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:27,040 yeah yeah 1705 01:15:31,350 --> 01:15:29,040 totally 1706 01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:31,360 well as long as max and vinnie aaron i 1707 01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,920 think will be all right 1708 01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,440 yeah all right 1709 01:15:39,910 --> 01:15:37,360 yeah i want to show you how influential 1710 01:15:43,270 --> 01:15:39,920 you are to me look what i'm listening to 1711 01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,280 uh buddy holly yeah sweetie 1712 01:15:48,630 --> 01:15:45,840 i love buddy holly from lubac lubac 1713 01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:48,640 texas buddy holly yeah we just went over 1714 01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:50,840 that case 1715 01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:53,199 yeah um 1716 01:16:00,709 --> 01:15:58,630 the buddy holly story i did i saw it in 1717 01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:00,719 the movies when i was eight years old 1718 01:16:06,070 --> 01:16:03,280 well well that's that guy's name gary's 1719 01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:06,080 gary busey yeah 1720 01:16:11,189 --> 01:16:08,400 it's a little bit a little bit of a 1721 01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:11,199 brain injury on gary dc yeah 1722 01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:12,560 yeah 1723 01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:14,480 he did well in the movie 1724 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:15,760 yeah 1725 01:16:23,910 --> 01:16:19,920 these days what what are you at with all 1726 01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:25,830 or thinking about 1727 01:16:30,070 --> 01:16:28,400 what am i thinking about um well i'm 1728 01:16:32,950 --> 01:16:30,080 really still getting kind of acclimated 1729 01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:32,960 to the whole youtube ufo kind of a thing 1730 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:34,800 and bouncing around from show to show 1731 01:16:39,189 --> 01:16:37,679 and getting engaged in the chats and um 1732 01:16:41,189 --> 01:16:39,199 trying to just 1733 01:16:43,990 --> 01:16:41,199 get in there that's really 1734 01:16:45,430 --> 01:16:44,000 um what i did mostly this weekend 1735 01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:45,440 um 1736 01:16:49,350 --> 01:16:48,000 christina gomez had a hollywood producer 1737 01:16:51,270 --> 01:16:49,360 on last night he's going to be doing a 1738 01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:51,280 show with some pop star 1739 01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:54,000 yeah briefly and um is my buddy zero 1740 01:16:58,149 --> 01:16:55,760 cool still in the chat 1741 01:17:00,950 --> 01:16:58,159 yeah what what i don't want to say we 1742 01:17:03,030 --> 01:17:00,960 tag team there but i uh i expressed some 1743 01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:03,040 dissatisfaction with the hollywood 1744 01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,480 establishment 1745 01:17:07,910 --> 01:17:05,920 um 1746 01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:07,920 but all right so here's where i'm at all 1747 01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,910 i support her i send her money i watch 1748 01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:17,600 her she's great she's like a little 1749 01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:19,280 sister that goes to college and does the 1750 01:17:22,470 --> 01:17:20,400 right thing 1751 01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:22,480 you know i like christina gomez it's 1752 01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:23,840 just like just this is what i 1753 01:17:26,709 --> 01:17:25,760 disappeared wasn't even her it was just 1754 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,719 the whole 1755 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:29,280 the concept of bringing hollywood into 1756 01:17:34,709 --> 01:17:32,880 this even deeper at this stage where we 1757 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,719 are with the government finally 1758 01:17:39,669 --> 01:17:36,800 beginning to talk a little bit finally 1759 01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:39,679 opening up the whole culture at large 1760 01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:41,840 starting to accept it as real 1761 01:17:47,270 --> 01:17:45,120 um i'd like to see a little more 1762 01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:47,280 legitimate scientific 1763 01:17:51,270 --> 01:17:49,440 interest from academics from real 1764 01:17:52,630 --> 01:17:51,280 scientists and a little less of the 1765 01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,640 hollywood 1766 01:17:56,709 --> 01:17:54,719 uh you know feel-good fakery that 1767 01:17:58,390 --> 01:17:56,719 hollywood brings now 1768 01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,400 they're going gonna put a pop star in 1769 01:18:01,830 --> 01:17:59,760 there and they're gonna you know because 1770 01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:01,840 it's eyes on i get it they're exploiting 1771 01:18:06,390 --> 01:18:04,400 for money and eyes on and i get it but 1772 01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:06,400 the argument that we need more people 1773 01:18:09,669 --> 01:18:08,159 involved is not necessarily the right 1774 01:18:12,070 --> 01:18:09,679 argument it's not the wrong argument 1775 01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:12,080 either we need more people involved but 1776 01:18:16,709 --> 01:18:15,199 we need the right people involved we 1777 01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,719 need more 1778 01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,719 more brett weinstein's less harvey 1779 01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:20,640 weinstein's you know what i mean well 1780 01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:22,880 let me play devil's advocate here so you 1781 01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,320 already touched on it a little bit but 1782 01:18:28,229 --> 01:18:26,480 most people will come back to you in 1783 01:18:30,790 --> 01:18:28,239 this community and say 1784 01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:30,800 uh well she's gonna reach such and such 1785 01:18:36,550 --> 01:18:34,080 million people and so of those million 1786 01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:36,560 people this percentage will start 1787 01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:39,520 looking into it for themselves and you 1788 01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:41,280 know take their own route 1789 01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,880 it's not it's not a bad thing and i 1790 01:18:47,030 --> 01:18:44,800 bring an old guy 1791 01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:47,040 opinion to it it's just great because 1792 01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:49,360 what if the next stanford stanford 1793 01:18:53,189 --> 01:18:51,199 freedom freedman 1794 01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:53,199 is watching the show and that's what 1795 01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:55,040 sparked them yeah i mean you got a good 1796 01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:58,159 point i mean curtis um kurt jumango at 1797 01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:00,080 the theory of everything had ross on 1798 01:19:02,790 --> 01:19:01,760 ross coldheart on 1799 01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:02,800 to 1800 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:05,600 over the weekend and that was an amazing 1801 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:06,480 um 1802 01:19:11,590 --> 01:19:08,880 show and a really really lively vibrate 1803 01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:11,600 chat and that's a show a podcast for 1804 01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:13,520 real brainiacs i mean they're like 1805 01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:15,600 physicists and people in the theory i 1806 01:19:18,310 --> 01:19:17,280 love that guy that's 1807 01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:18,320 that's 1808 01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,679 um 1809 01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,520 an audience that i would like to see 1810 01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,679 much more engaged in the subject matter 1811 01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:25,360 than opposed to let's just bring pop 1812 01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:27,440 stars and disney channel people 1813 01:19:33,590 --> 01:19:28,400 so 1814 01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:33,600 right i don't disagree 1815 01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:36,000 i mean what what i would i think of when 1816 01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,600 i think of hollywood getting involved is 1817 01:19:43,510 --> 01:19:39,920 how they ruin everything 1818 01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:43,520 as musicians we know what what you know 1819 01:19:47,430 --> 01:19:45,679 corporations and people have done to the 1820 01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:47,440 music industry which is completely 1821 01:19:56,870 --> 01:19:54,709 this is kind of like i mean you could 1822 01:19:58,470 --> 01:19:56,880 listen this is this is weird right you 1823 01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,480 know how i'm like defensive about even 1824 01:20:02,229 --> 01:20:00,239 using the word uap 1825 01:20:03,990 --> 01:20:02,239 it's kind of like this was my thing it's 1826 01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:04,000 kind of like we can relate this to music 1827 01:20:07,669 --> 01:20:06,000 it's like if you're into a band and that 1828 01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:07,679 band's an underground band and they're 1829 01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:09,360 you're banned man you go see them and 1830 01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:10,719 there's three or four hundred people in 1831 01:20:13,110 --> 01:20:12,000 the room and you've been following for 1832 01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:13,120 years and all of a sudden they have a 1833 01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:14,320 hit song 1834 01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:15,440 and now they're playing at madison 1835 01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,440 square garden in front of 25 000 people 1836 01:20:20,470 --> 01:20:18,960 and they they don't know anything about 1837 01:20:21,750 --> 01:20:20,480 the band they just knew they liked the 1838 01:20:22,629 --> 01:20:21,760 hit song they're here for the one hit 1839 01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:22,639 song 1840 01:20:26,070 --> 01:20:24,400 you know that's kind of how i feel now 1841 01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:26,080 in ufology it's like everybody's here 1842 01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:27,679 for lou elizondo and they don't know 1843 01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,960 anything about you know majestic 12. 1844 01:20:34,470 --> 01:20:32,719 i kind of feel the same way like who are 1845 01:20:36,470 --> 01:20:34,480 these posers like everybody just showed 1846 01:20:38,229 --> 01:20:36,480 up but it's it's all that let me say 1847 01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,239 this it's a clown yeah and you can't you 1848 01:20:41,669 --> 01:20:39,840 can't blanket statement all those people 1849 01:20:43,430 --> 01:20:41,679 either maybe what you're seeing is that 1850 01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:43,440 but you don't know the whole scope of it 1851 01:20:47,590 --> 01:20:45,600 right because people like me are here 1852 01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:47,600 yeah and i also understand that this is 1853 01:20:52,870 --> 01:20:50,480 a subject that affects all of humanity 1854 01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:52,880 all of it everyone every culture every 1855 01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:54,320 nation every language every 1856 01:20:57,590 --> 01:20:56,239 socio-economic class the guy sleeping 1857 01:20:59,110 --> 01:20:57,600 under the bridge or the guy living in 1858 01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,120 the marvel palace 1859 01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,199 every human being on earth is affected 1860 01:21:05,030 --> 01:21:03,760 by this so for me to say no you stay out 1861 01:21:07,270 --> 01:21:05,040 of it 1862 01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,280 it's kind of just ingest it really 1863 01:21:12,149 --> 01:21:10,159 really is i wish everybody could come on 1864 01:21:14,709 --> 01:21:12,159 and get involved i just 1865 01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:14,719 i'm more i'm more inclined to 1866 01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:15,520 want 1867 01:21:19,110 --> 01:21:17,600 at this stage right now we're finally 1868 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:19,120 getting recognition we're finally 1869 01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,560 getting the 1870 01:21:25,030 --> 01:21:23,040 the scientific establishment is finally 1871 01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:25,040 starting to look at it let's not scare 1872 01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:27,360 them away let's just you know come in 1873 01:21:30,790 --> 01:21:29,120 and look at this stuff for real that's 1874 01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:30,800 not where i stand 1875 01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,280 what do you mean by scare them away 1876 01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:34,880 we'll scare them away with more give 1877 01:21:39,750 --> 01:21:37,360 them more reasons to smirk about little 1878 01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,760 green men you know the mainstream news 1879 01:21:43,270 --> 01:21:41,520 doesn't take it seriously when they do 1880 01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:43,280 there's always some the weatherman 1881 01:21:48,390 --> 01:21:45,679 cracks a joke about you know little 1882 01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:48,400 green men and tinfoil hats and it's 1883 01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:51,600 almost can't be spoken in public without 1884 01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:54,320 a little joke just to ease into the 1885 01:22:02,470 --> 01:21:56,000 subject 1886 01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:02,480 saucers in the sky this involves the 1887 01:22:06,310 --> 01:22:04,560 government line government cover-ups 1888 01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:06,320 international 1889 01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,360 everything 1890 01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,360 can you 1891 01:22:14,790 --> 01:22:11,840 i mean i'd i don't think that you should 1892 01:22:17,750 --> 01:22:14,800 have to hold back because the person 1893 01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:17,760 isn't mature enough to 1894 01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,920 take in the information right it's not 1895 01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:21,600 my fault that they can't take it 1896 01:22:27,750 --> 01:22:22,880 seriously 1897 01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:30,229 a story that seems a little bizarre or 1898 01:22:34,229 --> 01:22:32,159 maybe there's a little green man in it 1899 01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:34,239 i'm convicted in the story and i believe 1900 01:22:36,629 --> 01:22:34,960 it 1901 01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:36,639 um 1902 01:22:41,669 --> 01:22:38,400 you know it's an experience and the 1903 01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:41,679 experiences the real ones are the real 1904 01:22:44,229 --> 01:22:43,280 part of all of this 1905 01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:44,239 you know 1906 01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:46,639 experiences 1907 01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:50,000 you know 1908 01:22:52,470 --> 01:22:50,880 i mean 1909 01:22:54,629 --> 01:22:52,480 those are the things that change 1910 01:22:56,870 --> 01:22:54,639 people's lives forever and their 1911 01:22:59,270 --> 01:22:56,880 trajectory of their life 1912 01:23:00,470 --> 01:22:59,280 those are things that impact humanity 1913 01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:00,480 and they should not be mocked or 1914 01:23:04,470 --> 01:23:02,880 ridiculed or told that they're crazy or 1915 01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,480 held back 1916 01:23:08,709 --> 01:23:06,960 right i know i agree with you 100 1917 01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:08,719 and i just want to stay for the record 1918 01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:10,400 you know the more the merrier it's going 1919 01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,400 to happen you know it's going to happen 1920 01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:14,400 i'm not advocating for anybody really 1921 01:23:18,070 --> 01:23:16,320 staying away 1922 01:23:19,830 --> 01:23:18,080 you can't right it's out of our control 1923 01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,840 anyway 1924 01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,920 i said it affects every human being on 1925 01:23:25,270 --> 01:23:23,440 earth so 1926 01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,280 i will just i want to see more brett 1927 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:27,760 weinstein's unless harvey weinstein's 1928 01:23:32,950 --> 01:23:29,199 you know to put it into a catchy 1929 01:23:35,430 --> 01:23:32,960 catchphrase you know what i mean 1930 01:23:37,350 --> 01:23:35,440 the more real deal stuff but uh you 1931 01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:37,360 could say the more 1932 01:23:42,950 --> 01:23:40,320 pop people like uh demi lovato do this 1933 01:23:44,790 --> 01:23:42,960 sort of thing you're gonna 1934 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:44,800 get more of a catch-all from different 1935 01:23:49,270 --> 01:23:46,800 types of people see i heard 1936 01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:49,280 saw zero cool say something and i'm not 1937 01:23:52,870 --> 01:23:50,880 saying this in the wrong way but he's 1938 01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:52,880 saying um i'm wondering what everything 1939 01:23:57,750 --> 01:23:54,719 real cool says is legit 1940 01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:57,760 demi lovato fans aren't going to push 1941 01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:00,719 legit disclosure see but right there 1942 01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:03,360 you're making a blanket statement on a 1943 01:24:08,070 --> 01:24:06,000 huge group of people it could you know 1944 01:24:10,629 --> 01:24:08,080 there's ceos who probably pop in her 1945 01:24:13,590 --> 01:24:10,639 album once in a while and very smart 1946 01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:13,600 people it's not just young little kids 1947 01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:14,639 you know 1948 01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:16,480 i don't know 1949 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,040 what you're doing is turning on a huge 1950 01:24:23,110 --> 01:24:20,880 tv in front of 1951 01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,120 millions of people and when you do that 1952 01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:25,920 people take what they want from it and 1953 01:24:29,830 --> 01:24:27,199 there will be 1954 01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:29,840 people that take 1955 01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:32,639 produce crap from it but there will be 1956 01:24:36,310 --> 01:24:35,040 people that take it and produce great 1957 01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:36,320 stuff from it 1958 01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:38,800 you know so and that's always how it is 1959 01:24:44,470 --> 01:24:41,199 is you get good and bad 1960 01:24:46,310 --> 01:24:44,480 you know yeah and with this we see that 1961 01:24:48,070 --> 01:24:46,320 now on a minute scale 1962 01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:48,080 but if we wanted to get big we have to 1963 01:24:51,430 --> 01:24:50,400 be prepared for that to happen globally 1964 01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,440 anyways 1965 01:24:56,550 --> 01:24:53,840 see i'm not necessarily interested in it 1966 01:25:00,070 --> 01:24:56,560 getting big i just want it i want i want 1967 01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:00,080 it to be studied i want to be taken 1968 01:25:04,830 --> 01:25:03,920 seriously um i just want real academics 1969 01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:04,840 to be 1970 01:25:08,950 --> 01:25:06,880 enthusiastic about it's the best 1971 01:25:10,709 --> 01:25:08,960 question that ever faces mankind you 1972 01:25:12,470 --> 01:25:10,719 know are we alone 1973 01:25:14,149 --> 01:25:12,480 for those of us who know the answer is 1974 01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:14,159 you know likely not 1975 01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:17,120 you know yeah and when you ask a normie 1976 01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:18,880 someone who's not interested or not a 1977 01:25:23,030 --> 01:25:21,600 ufo enthusiast if you know i ask on 1978 01:25:24,870 --> 01:25:23,040 occasion i'll ask somebody you know what 1979 01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:24,880 do you think of ufos and they'll give 1980 01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:26,800 you the generic oh there's got to be 1981 01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:28,159 something out there there's got to be 1982 01:25:31,990 --> 01:25:29,840 something out there in the universe it 1983 01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:32,000 has to be we can't be alone but they're 1984 01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:33,440 missing the point it's not what's out 1985 01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,360 there it's what's visiting here and i 1986 01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:37,040 want to know what's visiting here and i 1987 01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:38,960 want science to look at what's visiting 1988 01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:40,400 here i want to know 1989 01:25:43,990 --> 01:25:41,760 who's who's 1990 01:25:46,390 --> 01:25:44,000 abducting our people and what are they 1991 01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,400 doing and why are they doing it and how 1992 01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,360 can we stop it can we stop it is it 1993 01:25:53,030 --> 01:25:51,679 possible these are the big questions 1994 01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,040 these are the things that i think we 1995 01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:55,040 need to discuss or i'd like to see 1996 01:25:59,270 --> 01:25:57,600 discussed more and specific answers real 1997 01:26:02,709 --> 01:25:59,280 people with real 1998 01:26:05,030 --> 01:26:02,719 um true academic uh you know credibility 1999 01:26:07,590 --> 01:26:05,040 who have the actual instrumentation to 2000 01:26:11,750 --> 01:26:07,600 record and find these things 2001 01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:11,760 yeah real legit answers um 2002 01:26:15,910 --> 01:26:14,800 you're familiar with uapx and ivylog 2003 01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:15,920 yeah i love it 2004 01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:18,320 um those guys i mean i'm all behind 2005 01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,320 those guys going out and finding this 2006 01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:25,350 the government 2007 01:26:28,470 --> 01:26:26,880 it's almost un-american to ask the 2008 01:26:30,709 --> 01:26:28,480 government to do something for you 2009 01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:30,719 although i know a lot of americans do 2010 01:26:35,910 --> 01:26:33,760 that's cool but you know we're supposed 2011 01:26:38,390 --> 01:26:35,920 to be independent of the government go 2012 01:26:40,790 --> 01:26:38,400 out and do your own thing and 2013 01:26:42,790 --> 01:26:40,800 a private group should find this 2014 01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,800 private group is more likely to come 2015 01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:44,560 back with a picture say if you get a 2016 01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:46,880 group i agree but the government's 2017 01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:49,840 expanding itself uh massively which 2018 01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:52,560 makes it almost impossible to not you 2019 01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:54,239 know to function without asking for 2020 01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:57,040 things hence the corona virus not to me 2021 01:27:00,950 --> 01:26:58,560 not without getting too political not to 2022 01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:00,960 mention the entire swath of the culture 2023 01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,679 that's dependent upon the government um 2024 01:27:06,870 --> 01:27:05,280 yeah it's not their fault though they 2025 01:27:08,870 --> 01:27:06,880 were put in that position 2026 01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:08,880 yeah no well yeah 2027 01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:09,760 yeah 2028 01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:14,000 credit cards i always feel that way like 2029 01:27:17,990 --> 01:27:15,840 it's like they just take advantage of 2030 01:27:20,550 --> 01:27:18,000 young people who don't know any better 2031 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,560 here you're 18. oh here you go go get 2032 01:27:23,910 --> 01:27:22,000 what you want 2033 01:27:25,510 --> 01:27:23,920 what's what's this interest don't 2034 01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:25,520 concern yourself with that just take 2035 01:27:31,030 --> 01:27:28,880 your credit card it's free no yeah 2036 01:27:33,110 --> 01:27:31,040 what's this interest 2037 01:27:34,070 --> 01:27:33,120 what else did i want to mention 2038 01:27:35,110 --> 01:27:34,080 um 2039 01:27:37,350 --> 01:27:35,120 oh dude 2040 01:27:39,750 --> 01:27:37,360 i don't know have you given up hope on 2041 01:27:42,629 --> 01:27:39,760 trying to get angeli 2042 01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:42,639 uh yeah pretty much you have oh i want 2043 01:27:46,709 --> 01:27:44,800 to do it like an open letter invitation 2044 01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:46,719 to jelly and jelly 2045 01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:49,280 please come on the witness citizen show 2046 01:27:54,310 --> 01:27:52,719 with sean please please look at this 2047 01:27:56,229 --> 01:27:54,320 come on 2048 01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:56,239 send her a message or something i did 2049 01:27:59,350 --> 01:27:58,560 she didn't respond senator sender this 2050 01:28:01,510 --> 01:27:59,360 this 2051 01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:01,520 open let open letter anjoy open letter 2052 01:28:06,390 --> 01:28:03,760 to angelic not really 2053 01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:06,400 what would you want to hear from her 2054 01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:08,159 first of all 2055 01:28:14,229 --> 01:28:12,000 not much more in regards to 2056 01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:14,239 her promise all right what she said 2057 01:28:18,709 --> 01:28:16,480 she's gonna do with the contact down the 2058 01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:18,719 tunnel i wouldn't even press her on that 2059 01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:21,440 i'm curious about angeli herself 2060 01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,280 what is she into she's got like this new 2061 01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:25,120 eg kind of a vibe you know like the 2062 01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:26,880 crystal crowd and i don't mean that in a 2063 01:28:30,470 --> 01:28:28,560 derogatory way i don't know much about 2064 01:28:33,510 --> 01:28:30,480 it i had a girlfriend that was all into 2065 01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:33,520 that stuff um you know 2066 01:28:36,870 --> 01:28:34,960 reiki 2067 01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:36,880 and all that stuff and that's all cool 2068 01:28:42,550 --> 01:28:39,199 and i'm curious about her i'm curious 2069 01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:42,560 about how her experiences affected her 2070 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:45,679 um what did it teach her what does she 2071 01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:48,719 how does she view life now after her 2072 01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,920 context 2073 01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:52,080 as opposed to before what has she 2074 01:28:56,070 --> 01:28:54,000 learned what does she have to tell us 2075 01:28:58,470 --> 01:28:56,080 now forget about what's happening i want 2076 01:29:00,470 --> 01:28:58,480 to know this is a person who's 2077 01:29:02,070 --> 01:29:00,480 had these experiences i want to talk to 2078 01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,080 experiences 2079 01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:04,320 and with an open mind non-judgmental i 2080 01:29:08,790 --> 01:29:07,280 believe you i believe people are being 2081 01:29:11,030 --> 01:29:08,800 abducted i believe people are being 2082 01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:11,040 contacted i believe there's um 2083 01:29:14,629 --> 01:29:13,040 telepathic communication with et 2084 01:29:16,629 --> 01:29:14,639 civilizations i believe this is 2085 01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:16,639 happening and i want to know 2086 01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:17,760 from her 2087 01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,480 to share that experience with us what's 2088 01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:22,639 going on you know 2089 01:29:26,629 --> 01:29:24,320 that's what i want that's what i want to 2090 01:29:30,149 --> 01:29:26,639 know now to counter that wouldn't that 2091 01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:30,159 be one of those things that scares away 2092 01:29:34,790 --> 01:29:33,040 you know scientists or whatever to come 2093 01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:34,800 take it seriously 2094 01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,840 yeah 2095 01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:36,960 probably 2096 01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:38,320 yeah but you know what you know what i 2097 01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:39,760 say to that 2098 01:29:45,590 --> 01:29:43,830 so what 2099 01:29:47,590 --> 01:29:45,600 if you like i said always you can't deal 2100 01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:47,600 with the whole story get out and it 2101 01:29:51,510 --> 01:29:49,840 affects everybody dude the guy sleeping 2102 01:29:53,430 --> 01:29:51,520 under the bridge when you drive home and 2103 01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:53,440 the guy living in the marvel palace that 2104 01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:57,280 you drive by that everybody everybody 2105 01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:00,320 doesn't belong to any one group or or 2106 01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:02,560 any one nation or any one culture 2107 01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:03,440 yeah 2108 01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:06,480 you know it really does 2109 01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:08,880 all of us as a species as a family and 2110 01:30:12,790 --> 01:30:10,800 dare i say i don't like to go too mushy 2111 01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:12,800 with the group huggy stuff well what 2112 01:30:16,310 --> 01:30:14,960 would scientists even have to add to the 2113 01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:16,320 picture right now because we already 2114 01:30:19,030 --> 01:30:17,440 know they're real the government's 2115 01:30:21,270 --> 01:30:19,040 already admitted that they're real so 2116 01:30:22,629 --> 01:30:21,280 what what do we we need a scientist to 2117 01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:22,639 tell us how fast they're really going 2118 01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,880 okay they're real you know what science 2119 01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,360 can tell us what are they where are they 2120 01:30:31,350 --> 01:30:29,520 from what are their motives who's in 2121 01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:31,360 control of those shows how do those 2122 01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:34,080 ships work what are their ships made of 2123 01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,480 all that stuff i mean all of it this 2124 01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:38,560 there's the area 2125 01:30:42,950 --> 01:30:41,440 of knowledge that we stand to gain 2126 01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:42,960 the amount of knowledge we stand to gain 2127 01:30:46,709 --> 01:30:45,520 from studying the subject is endless 2128 01:30:49,270 --> 01:30:46,719 endless 2129 01:30:51,270 --> 01:30:49,280 and everybody's every branch of science 2130 01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:51,280 and biologists if they want us to we get 2131 01:30:54,070 --> 01:30:52,400 a body 2132 01:30:56,790 --> 01:30:54,080 we get a crash why don't you let 2133 01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:56,800 biologists and anatomists look at at the 2134 01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,639 grace what's going on there what's in 2135 01:31:02,550 --> 01:31:00,800 the gray's brain that allows them to 2136 01:31:04,229 --> 01:31:02,560 have telepathy there's got to be 2137 01:31:06,070 --> 01:31:04,239 something going on in the anatomy and 2138 01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,080 the physiology of the 2139 01:31:11,350 --> 01:31:08,719 cranium in that brain that they could 2140 01:31:13,830 --> 01:31:11,360 talk to each other and talk simply by 2141 01:31:15,669 --> 01:31:13,840 staring into the human being's eyes 2142 01:31:17,510 --> 01:31:15,679 yeah you know think that's the 2143 01:31:19,830 --> 01:31:17,520 communication yeah yeah i don't want to 2144 01:31:22,470 --> 01:31:19,840 go too off on on on a weird tangent but 2145 01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:22,480 i've been thinking this has to do with 2146 01:31:26,229 --> 01:31:24,159 the consciousness 2147 01:31:28,629 --> 01:31:26,239 uh component of it 2148 01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:28,639 imagine this you know in the human body 2149 01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:31,840 the only nerve that's exposed to the 2150 01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:34,800 outside the only nerve is the eyeballs 2151 01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:36,960 that's a nerve that's the optic nerve 2152 01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:39,600 connects directly into the brain so i 2153 01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:41,120 think the grays 2154 01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:43,440 have this ability with their eyes to 2155 01:31:47,990 --> 01:31:45,520 connect almost like tuning in a radio 2156 01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:48,000 station they hover in boom and they look 2157 01:31:51,030 --> 01:31:49,520 right into your eyes 2158 01:31:53,510 --> 01:31:51,040 and they're able to 2159 01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:53,520 read your thoughts implant thoughts and 2160 01:31:57,830 --> 01:31:55,600 they're able to even attach themselves 2161 01:32:00,229 --> 01:31:57,840 to connect to the autonomic nervous 2162 01:32:01,270 --> 01:32:00,239 system of a human being and paralyze 2163 01:32:03,350 --> 01:32:01,280 them 2164 01:32:04,709 --> 01:32:03,360 that's an incredible 2165 01:32:07,350 --> 01:32:04,719 technology 2166 01:32:09,270 --> 01:32:07,360 imagine that tip forget about the craft 2167 01:32:11,990 --> 01:32:09,280 and the nuts and bolts of the ship 2168 01:32:13,270 --> 01:32:12,000 imagine if we could figure out a way to 2169 01:32:15,430 --> 01:32:13,280 do that 2170 01:32:18,229 --> 01:32:15,440 imagine if the military can get a hold 2171 01:32:19,830 --> 01:32:18,239 of that dissect its brain see oh okay 2172 01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:19,840 here's the part that controls the 2173 01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:22,080 telepathy and then they manage to make 2174 01:32:26,790 --> 01:32:24,880 like a like a military contact lens and 2175 01:32:29,350 --> 01:32:26,800 you can just look at your enemy and read 2176 01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:29,360 his brain and look paralyzed is it the 2177 01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:31,440 smart glasses what happened to those 2178 01:32:35,189 --> 01:32:33,520 remember that google 2179 01:32:36,310 --> 01:32:35,199 put them on right now here you go do i 2180 01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:36,320 look smart 2181 01:32:39,910 --> 01:32:37,920 no but there was that was a real thing 2182 01:32:41,910 --> 01:32:39,920 where their your smart screen was like 2183 01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:41,920 in your lens or something 2184 01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:43,440 all right whether the computer your 2185 01:32:46,950 --> 01:32:45,040 computer and your phone or on that 2186 01:32:49,910 --> 01:32:46,960 that's not seem distracting that seems a 2187 01:32:51,590 --> 01:32:49,920 little distracting yeah totally awesome 2188 01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:51,600 it's not in the market so probably 2189 01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:54,480 didn't work out 2190 01:32:58,229 --> 01:32:56,239 yeah i was probably in the prototype 2191 01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:58,239 stage 2192 01:33:01,830 --> 01:32:59,679 well that's what we're getting to with 2193 01:33:03,750 --> 01:33:01,840 the nero link and everything 2194 01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:03,760 with the elon musk i'm all for it man 2195 01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:06,560 i'm all for buyer robotics you know 2196 01:33:11,189 --> 01:33:08,560 i'm actually colorblind i would love to 2197 01:33:13,430 --> 01:33:11,199 be able to like oh are you what yeah 2198 01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:13,440 that's common one in ten men but i i 2199 01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:15,040 would love to be on my dad 2200 01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,120 some contact lenses and be able to 2201 01:33:23,030 --> 01:33:19,679 actually see color again like real color 2202 01:33:24,709 --> 01:33:23,040 vivid color yeah 2203 01:33:26,149 --> 01:33:24,719 i mean aren't we really just going 2204 01:33:28,709 --> 01:33:26,159 towards uh 2205 01:33:31,110 --> 01:33:28,719 singularity 2206 01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:31,120 maybe i'm not sure i understand any for 2207 01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,840 what singularity is it's such a broad 2208 01:33:37,990 --> 01:33:36,080 thing it's like yeah a bit more it's 2209 01:33:41,110 --> 01:33:38,000 like 2210 01:33:43,510 --> 01:33:41,120 more so that's us becoming 2211 01:33:46,709 --> 01:33:43,520 one with technology 2212 01:33:47,750 --> 01:33:46,719 oh in that sense yeah i'm all for it 2213 01:33:51,110 --> 01:33:47,760 do it 2214 01:33:52,790 --> 01:33:51,120 yeah live forever reverse your aging 2215 01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:52,800 jeans i don't i don't know why we don't 2216 01:33:56,709 --> 01:33:54,000 do that why 2217 01:33:58,550 --> 01:33:56,719 think about it at birth we take um take 2218 01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,560 the umbilical cord right stick it in the 2219 01:34:02,390 --> 01:34:00,719 jar and whenever you need an organ later 2220 01:34:03,830 --> 01:34:02,400 in life oh looks like your kidneys are 2221 01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:03,840 starting to go and then they just grow 2222 01:34:07,510 --> 01:34:05,840 your new set of kidneys and grow your 2223 01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:07,520 new liver and a new heart and then you 2224 01:34:11,110 --> 01:34:09,360 reach 40 years old and you just put 2225 01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:11,120 everything new and again 2226 01:34:18,390 --> 01:34:15,990 that'll never happen unless we find 2227 01:34:19,830 --> 01:34:18,400 another planet to habitat 2228 01:34:21,990 --> 01:34:19,840 yeah well we're doing a good job of 2229 01:34:23,750 --> 01:34:22,000 destroying this one that's for sure 2230 01:34:26,310 --> 01:34:23,760 right well because there's only so much 2231 01:34:27,750 --> 01:34:26,320 room for for people to just keep living 2232 01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:27,760 right 2233 01:34:30,870 --> 01:34:30,000 yeah i mean it's there's only so many 2234 01:34:33,350 --> 01:34:30,880 it's not 2235 01:34:35,510 --> 01:34:33,360 an endless supermarket we're gonna enter 2236 01:34:36,390 --> 01:34:35,520 the show 2237 01:34:38,149 --> 01:34:36,400 soon 2238 01:34:40,470 --> 01:34:38,159 and you know there's not enough i mean 2239 01:34:42,229 --> 01:34:40,480 even right here dude i mean people 2240 01:34:44,629 --> 01:34:42,239 everyone who lives in the southwest 2241 01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:44,639 united states you know anything west of 2242 01:34:50,310 --> 01:34:47,440 say el paso you're living in the desert 2243 01:34:52,070 --> 01:34:50,320 man all those cities tucson phoenix los 2244 01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:52,080 angeles san diego 2245 01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:54,480 right that's you're in the desert dude 2246 01:34:58,229 --> 01:34:56,639 water has to be brought in it just 2247 01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:58,239 doesn't rain there 2248 01:35:02,149 --> 01:35:00,960 so even water is going to be scarce 2249 01:35:04,709 --> 01:35:02,159 you know 2250 01:35:06,709 --> 01:35:04,719 it's so basic when avi was on the show 2251 01:35:08,709 --> 01:35:06,719 he actually talked about like part of 2252 01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:08,719 his um 2253 01:35:15,669 --> 01:35:11,199 uh motivation is to find another 2254 01:35:19,030 --> 01:35:15,679 habitable planet that we can go to 2255 01:35:20,790 --> 01:35:19,040 and start at you know yeah yeah isn't 2256 01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:20,800 that awesome 2257 01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,390 yeah it the strangest part is where he 2258 01:35:30,550 --> 01:35:28,560 comes from harvard right who's the last 2259 01:35:31,270 --> 01:35:30,560 guy that came from harvard that oh my 2260 01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:31,280 god 2261 01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:32,080 yeah 2262 01:35:37,109 --> 01:35:33,840 how different are those two that's one 2263 01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:37,119 thing i would have asked uh avi log um 2264 01:35:42,550 --> 01:35:39,760 what's john mack's reputation like back 2265 01:35:43,990 --> 01:35:42,560 at harvard i mean 2266 01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:44,000 did they talk about him at the water 2267 01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:46,159 cooler you know do they seem to never 2268 01:35:50,550 --> 01:35:48,639 whisper about him i know his his the 2269 01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:50,560 faculty was not happy with what john 2270 01:35:54,470 --> 01:35:52,080 mack was doing 2271 01:35:56,709 --> 01:35:54,480 um some of them were not did you ever 2272 01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,719 watch the uh the john mack oprah 2273 01:35:58,870 --> 01:35:58,080 interview 2274 01:35:59,669 --> 01:35:58,880 uh 2275 01:36:01,990 --> 01:35:59,679 yeah 2276 01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:02,000 i'm not an avid oprah fan but i have 2277 01:36:06,149 --> 01:36:04,960 never seen that woman so nervous in my 2278 01:36:08,310 --> 01:36:06,159 life 2279 01:36:10,149 --> 01:36:08,320 she had a look on her face like she was 2280 01:36:11,910 --> 01:36:10,159 just scared 2281 01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:11,920 and that was in the 90s when those shows 2282 01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:13,760 were like those shows were crazy like 2283 01:36:17,590 --> 01:36:15,840 geraldo got his freaking nose busted 2284 01:36:20,149 --> 01:36:17,600 there was everything 2285 01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:20,159 anything yeah anything went on talk 2286 01:36:25,270 --> 01:36:23,199 shows in the 90s anything the crazier 2287 01:36:27,830 --> 01:36:25,280 you are the better and oprah goes for 2288 01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:27,840 let's get an alien abductees on and all 2289 01:36:32,470 --> 01:36:29,520 of a sudden there's a professor of 2290 01:36:34,629 --> 01:36:32,480 harvard psychiatry 2291 01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:34,639 she's like oh my god this is not some 2292 01:36:38,709 --> 01:36:36,880 guy you know living in a hut in a 2293 01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:38,719 [\h__\h] kentucky this is like a 2294 01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:41,280 harvard professor and that's what no 2295 01:36:45,669 --> 01:36:43,119 offense to kentucky and that's why you 2296 01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:45,679 always see mass uh 2297 01:36:49,590 --> 01:36:47,760 you know mass hysteria mentioned with 2298 01:36:53,590 --> 01:36:49,600 this stuff because you'll have all these 2299 01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:55,189 that's okay everybody needs a little 2300 01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,560 opera 2301 01:37:00,629 --> 01:36:59,199 no i mean just scared shitless 2302 01:37:01,750 --> 01:37:00,639 oh nervous 2303 01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:01,760 yeah 2304 01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:04,320 you know it's an interesting thing that 2305 01:37:09,430 --> 01:37:07,199 i think about sometimes where um there 2306 01:37:12,070 --> 01:37:09,440 was a great question posed to lou 2307 01:37:13,590 --> 01:37:12,080 alexander right great question i think 2308 01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:13,600 it was first pressed 2309 01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:15,760 uh on the curt show kurt germongel shout 2310 01:37:20,709 --> 01:37:17,119 out to that guy who was a great 2311 01:37:23,350 --> 01:37:20,719 interview yeah great and um somebody 2312 01:37:25,590 --> 01:37:23,360 asked him what would the world be like 2313 01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:25,600 if we all knew what you knew 2314 01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:28,719 and luke paused and then the first word 2315 01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:30,960 he said was 2316 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:33,360 somber 2317 01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:37,840 does he mean 2318 01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:40,000 and uh 2319 01:37:44,629 --> 01:37:43,119 i think somber means um 2320 01:37:48,950 --> 01:37:44,639 that 2321 01:37:51,109 --> 01:37:48,960 religions will be basically just 2322 01:37:53,270 --> 01:37:51,119 nullified immediately 2323 01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,280 and that perhaps our 2324 01:37:58,310 --> 01:37:56,159 the very dna that we have in our as our 2325 01:38:00,470 --> 01:37:58,320 on our species is basically a hybrid 2326 01:38:02,390 --> 01:38:00,480 species the alien 2327 01:38:04,790 --> 01:38:02,400 species came here 2328 01:38:06,950 --> 01:38:04,800 from our planet be the dimension being 2329 01:38:09,669 --> 01:38:06,960 another planet but came here 2330 01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,679 and through a process of hybridization 2331 01:38:14,790 --> 01:38:12,560 took a local primate native to earth 2332 01:38:17,270 --> 01:38:14,800 and added some of their genes to that 2333 01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:17,280 primate and created the homo sapien 2334 01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,280 sapien so in this in 2335 01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:21,360 essence we're all 2336 01:38:25,510 --> 01:38:22,560 hybrids 2337 01:38:27,910 --> 01:38:25,520 and we've made up all our gods and all 2338 01:38:30,470 --> 01:38:27,920 of our religions are man-made and all 2339 01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:30,480 your religious leaders are scam artists 2340 01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:31,760 and 2341 01:38:36,149 --> 01:38:34,239 that's what i think meant by somber i'm 2342 01:38:38,229 --> 01:38:36,159 sorry that was deep but 2343 01:38:40,149 --> 01:38:38,239 no think about it how would you react if 2344 01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,159 you worship and believe in a god and all 2345 01:38:42,950 --> 01:38:41,840 of a sudden you find out yeah that's not 2346 01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:42,960 true 2347 01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,239 so for whatever reason this thought just 2348 01:38:50,709 --> 01:38:48,400 came across me and sometimes 2349 01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,719 you know i definitely question these but 2350 01:38:56,070 --> 01:38:52,880 sometimes 2351 01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:56,080 they're little moments of premonition so 2352 01:38:58,390 --> 01:38:57,440 i'm just gonna throw it out there just 2353 01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:58,400 in case 2354 01:39:03,030 --> 01:39:00,400 but um 2355 01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,040 what i heard him say was what have we 2356 01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:07,990 right like destroying the planet maybe 2357 01:39:13,030 --> 01:39:10,800 or to each other or to each other i mean 2358 01:39:15,109 --> 01:39:13,040 how many people died in world war ii 2359 01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:15,119 we're basically 2360 01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:16,480 like tribal 2361 01:39:22,070 --> 01:39:19,040 morons killing each other for what 2362 01:39:25,590 --> 01:39:22,080 yeah it's really sad the way the human 2363 01:39:28,310 --> 01:39:25,600 being behaves in some ways we're really 2364 01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:28,320 not enlightened in that sense that you 2365 01:39:31,510 --> 01:39:29,760 know maybe 2366 01:39:32,550 --> 01:39:31,520 they are violent 2367 01:39:35,830 --> 01:39:32,560 and maybe 2368 01:39:38,629 --> 01:39:37,350 what do you mean like this is a prison 2369 01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:38,639 planet like 2370 01:39:43,030 --> 01:39:41,920 no just like with the maybe our nuclear 2371 01:39:46,550 --> 01:39:43,040 stuff 2372 01:39:48,629 --> 01:39:46,560 you know 45 white sands 2373 01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,639 you know running around our nuclear 2374 01:39:55,990 --> 01:39:51,600 facilities montana maybe something we 2375 01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:56,000 did brought them here and they are bad 2376 01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:58,000 yeah what are we done well one good way 2377 01:40:02,790 --> 01:39:59,440 to get attention is let off the 2378 01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:02,800 firecracker that is a nuclear bomb 2379 01:40:06,229 --> 01:40:04,239 are you going to listen are you going to 2380 01:40:11,270 --> 01:40:06,239 tell the public if you're responsible 2381 01:40:13,910 --> 01:40:13,030 yeah i hear what you're saying 2382 01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:13,920 right 2383 01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:14,800 now 2384 01:40:19,109 --> 01:40:17,679 you would try to hide that as much as 2385 01:40:21,030 --> 01:40:19,119 you can 2386 01:40:24,070 --> 01:40:21,040 otherwise the people would revolt 2387 01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:26,149 yeah there's many reasons for people to 2388 01:40:29,510 --> 01:40:28,080 revolt if they knew the truth about a 2389 01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:29,520 lot of the government 2390 01:40:33,270 --> 01:40:31,360 right but if they're out here like 2391 01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:33,280 abducting us for all this time and 2392 01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:35,360 everything and it turns out it was their 2393 01:40:38,870 --> 01:40:37,600 fault because they built this nuclear 2394 01:40:40,950 --> 01:40:38,880 [\h__\h] 2395 01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:40,960 yeah well they're definitely not happy 2396 01:40:45,189 --> 01:40:42,560 and the et's are definitely not happy 2397 01:40:46,950 --> 01:40:45,199 with our use and of nukes that 2398 01:40:49,430 --> 01:40:46,960 they're definitely curious 2399 01:40:50,629 --> 01:40:49,440 um here's an interesting theory that 2400 01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:50,639 maybe 2401 01:40:53,990 --> 01:40:52,239 um 2402 01:40:55,510 --> 01:40:54,000 they're they're curious because they've 2403 01:40:57,750 --> 01:40:55,520 been visiting earth 2404 01:41:00,629 --> 01:40:57,760 for millions of years we've existed in 2405 01:41:02,790 --> 01:41:00,639 this body this type of about 300 000 2406 01:41:04,310 --> 01:41:02,800 according to the fossil record what if 2407 01:41:06,229 --> 01:41:04,320 they've been visiting for millions and 2408 01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:06,239 millions of years and they're accustomed 2409 01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:09,040 to the cycles of life on earth 2410 01:41:12,629 --> 01:41:10,800 they're familiar with the dinosaurs and 2411 01:41:15,109 --> 01:41:12,639 a mass extinction they're familiar with 2412 01:41:16,790 --> 01:41:15,119 with an ice age and then a natural 2413 01:41:18,950 --> 01:41:16,800 warming they're familiar with the cycles 2414 01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,960 of earth and all of a sudden here's this 2415 01:41:23,030 --> 01:41:20,880 species that creates 2416 01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:23,040 a technology that can destroy the entire 2417 01:41:28,149 --> 01:41:24,880 planet just destroy it 2418 01:41:29,910 --> 01:41:28,159 and uh they're not happy with that 2419 01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:29,920 uh you guys are gonna you know destroy 2420 01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:31,280 your own house here we're not going to 2421 01:41:33,990 --> 01:41:32,400 let you do that 2422 01:41:35,910 --> 01:41:34,000 and not even just the planet you're 2423 01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:35,920 starting to destroy 2424 01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:38,800 like your galaxy as i've said before 2425 01:41:41,350 --> 01:41:40,159 like nasa 2426 01:41:42,709 --> 01:41:41,360 uses 2427 01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:42,719 uh 2428 01:41:46,390 --> 01:41:45,360 you know they burn plutonium 2429 01:41:48,709 --> 01:41:46,400 in space 2430 01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:48,719 to keep 2431 01:41:51,590 --> 01:41:50,159 you know for their spaceships and 2432 01:41:52,709 --> 01:41:51,600 everything so like 2433 01:41:56,709 --> 01:41:52,719 that 2434 01:41:59,270 --> 01:41:56,719 radiation so it's not like it's going to 2435 01:42:01,430 --> 01:41:59,280 get radiated i mean i guess yeah 2436 01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:01,440 if we had an efficient and safe way to 2437 01:42:06,229 --> 01:42:03,920 put our radioactive waste into space 2438 01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:06,239 it'd probably be safer for the planet 2439 01:42:10,390 --> 01:42:08,800 right now they're burying it in nevada 2440 01:42:12,550 --> 01:42:10,400 that's not supposed to that's supposed 2441 01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,560 to like i have a half-life it's supposed 2442 01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:14,639 to be radioactive for over a million 2443 01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:15,760 years 2444 01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:18,000 yeah where do we put that 2445 01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:20,080 yeah you know what i mean we're this 2446 01:42:24,790 --> 01:42:23,199 byproduct this this this nuclear waste 2447 01:42:26,830 --> 01:42:24,800 where we put that 2448 01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:26,840 if we put it on the moon maybe not a bad 2449 01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:29,520 idea i don't know 2450 01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:31,090 i like doing them 2451 01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:32,400 [Laughter] 2452 01:42:37,189 --> 01:42:34,159 well why haven't we why are there not 2453 01:42:39,109 --> 01:42:37,199 hotels on the moon by now why are there 2454 01:42:40,870 --> 01:42:39,119 not did columbus 2455 01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,880 did columbus come to the new world and 2456 01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:43,199 then go back to europe and say uh yeah 2457 01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,719 there's something there and then nobody 2458 01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,560 came no as soon as columbus went back 2459 01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:48,159 and said there's land there 2460 01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:50,639 everybody started coming you know why 2461 01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:52,960 are we not going back to the moon 2462 01:42:57,430 --> 01:42:54,800 why yeah that's that's interesting 2463 01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:57,440 what's going on bill nelson is talking 2464 01:43:01,830 --> 01:42:59,600 about that again isn't he like and we'll 2465 01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:01,840 go back to the moon or something 2466 01:43:06,870 --> 01:43:03,440 i thought i heard him say that i don't 2467 01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:06,880 know why hasn't like the chinese or or 2468 01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:08,880 didn't russia didn't land on the moon 2469 01:43:11,910 --> 01:43:10,480 did they never put a man on the moon i 2470 01:43:13,910 --> 01:43:11,920 don't know i'm sure 2471 01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:13,920 i don't know they got close but i don't 2472 01:43:18,310 --> 01:43:16,159 think they put anybody there or maybe we 2473 01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:18,320 never got there like the flat earthers 2474 01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,280 say 2475 01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:21,840 yeah wow 2476 01:43:25,270 --> 01:43:23,840 you know these compelling arguments to 2477 01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,280 say that we've never made we didn't 2478 01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,880 really go to the men there was 2479 01:43:30,790 --> 01:43:28,960 compelling yeah i ain't getting into 2480 01:43:32,310 --> 01:43:30,800 that but i mean there is i wouldn't 2481 01:43:35,910 --> 01:43:32,320 touch that i wouldn't touch that with 2482 01:43:37,189 --> 01:43:35,920 bigfoot football yeah 2483 01:43:38,470 --> 01:43:37,199 do you know how to stand on the moon 2484 01:43:39,910 --> 01:43:38,480 without going into it you know where i 2485 01:43:41,669 --> 01:43:39,920 stand on the moon whether 2486 01:43:44,070 --> 01:43:41,679 it depends on whatever documentary i 2487 01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:44,080 watched last if i watch one that says we 2488 01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:46,800 went and we went if our watch says 2489 01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:49,840 we didn't go no that's why i'm so fickle 2490 01:43:57,430 --> 01:43:50,639 on it 2491 01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:59,030 that's that's totally true that's how i 2492 01:44:04,390 --> 01:44:01,920 am with my uh my sports teams like 2493 01:44:06,470 --> 01:44:04,400 however they played in their last game 2494 01:44:09,430 --> 01:44:06,480 they're going all the way or 2495 01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:09,440 they freaking suck 2496 01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:11,199 that's why i stay i stay loyal to the 2497 01:44:15,030 --> 01:44:13,280 sport and not the team like i'm a hockey 2498 01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:15,040 fan and people always say well what team 2499 01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,040 and i'm like all of them 2500 01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:19,520 yeah i'll watch any hockey game i don't 2501 01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:20,960 care 2502 01:44:23,910 --> 01:44:22,320 you know 2503 01:44:25,590 --> 01:44:23,920 that's awesome 2504 01:44:26,950 --> 01:44:25,600 all right boss all right can i just 2505 01:44:28,870 --> 01:44:26,960 before i go quick i'm not going to be 2506 01:44:31,030 --> 01:44:28,880 here tomorrow i'm sorry i will watch it 2507 01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:31,040 good luck congratulations on this is a 2508 01:44:34,709 --> 01:44:32,159 big one man you're going to have a lot 2509 01:44:35,990 --> 01:44:34,719 of eyes on do a good job you will yeah i 2510 01:44:37,990 --> 01:44:36,000 will i'll make you guys proud don't let 2511 01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,000 them wiggle don't let them wiggle don't 2512 01:44:41,830 --> 01:44:40,239 be rude it's not it's not a 2513 01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:41,840 you know it's not an interrogation it's 2514 01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:44,000 not a homicide case but don't let him 2515 01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:46,320 wiggle yeah no i got he's tired he 2516 01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:47,600 doesn't care he's not getting elected 2517 01:44:51,350 --> 01:44:49,600 he's going to be forthcoming 2518 01:44:54,149 --> 01:44:51,360 right he's going to be what's coming but 2519 01:44:55,990 --> 01:44:54,159 let me give shouts out to zero cool 2520 01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:56,000 me and him tag teams is that poor 2521 01:45:01,430 --> 01:44:59,119 christina gomez sorry honey and robert 2522 01:45:04,310 --> 01:45:01,440 covert and og skywatch and rusty and 2523 01:45:06,950 --> 01:45:04,320 scott and expendable 2524 01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:06,960 all those guys i was at a boxing match 2525 01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:09,040 and a hockey game broke out you know 2526 01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:11,199 yeah we went to a street fight a hockey 2527 01:45:17,750 --> 01:45:13,760 game broke out i had a dream a hamburger 2528 01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:19,750 all right 2529 01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:21,360 yep love you bro good seeing you bye 2530 01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:23,920 i'll see you guys uh later in the week 2531 01:45:28,149 --> 01:45:26,080 all right sounds good man bye guys 2532 01:45:32,229 --> 01:45:28,159 bye 2533 01:45:35,030 --> 01:45:32,239 all right that was awesome as always 2534 01:45:37,189 --> 01:45:35,040 um it was a crazy day wild a lot of 2535 01:45:38,709 --> 01:45:37,199 different stuff we had robert come in we 2536 01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:38,719 had joey come in 2537 01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:39,520 um 2538 01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:42,960 and we talked about some watch committee 2539 01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:45,440 documents which are pretty interesting i 2540 01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:46,159 do 2541 01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,360 encourage you guys to look into those 2542 01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:48,719 especially the people that know a lot 2543 01:45:54,070 --> 01:45:52,239 more about this stuff and names in times 2544 01:45:56,470 --> 01:45:54,080 take a look at those and see if they you 2545 01:45:58,709 --> 01:45:56,480 know correlate with anything else 2546 01:46:00,709 --> 01:45:58,719 may be surprised what you find 2547 01:46:02,310 --> 01:46:00,719 um but yeah 2548 01:46:03,510 --> 01:46:02,320 other than that i'm gonna see you 2549 01:46:07,109 --> 01:46:03,520 tomorrow 2550 01:46:08,470 --> 01:46:07,119 for uh what is going to be a great 2551 01:46:11,510 --> 01:46:08,480 episode 2552 01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:11,520 uh with harry reid i'll be joining max 2553 01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:13,360 as the second 2554 01:46:18,070 --> 01:46:14,960 um 2555 01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:18,080 basically ufo show to interview the guy 2556 01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:19,920 so that's awesome 2557 01:46:22,950 --> 01:46:21,600 and i hope you guys join me bring your 2558 01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:22,960 support 2559 01:46:25,750 --> 01:46:24,239 i'll 2560 01:46:27,189 --> 01:46:25,760 i won't have the super chat on or 2561 01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:27,199 anything because i don't want somebody 2562 01:46:31,510 --> 01:46:29,040 to come in and give me a bunch of money 2563 01:46:33,750 --> 01:46:31,520 for a question i can't ask so 2564 01:46:35,350 --> 01:46:33,760 so i'm gonna i'm gonna uh turn that off 2565 01:46:36,149 --> 01:46:35,360 but the live chat will be up of course 2566 01:46:39,350 --> 01:46:36,159 so 2567 01:46:41,109 --> 01:46:39,360 um yeah you guys take care thanks avril 2568 01:46:42,149 --> 01:46:41,119 hope to see you tomorrow 2569 01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,159 um 2570 01:46:46,870 --> 01:46:44,719 yeah vapid engaged scott robert 2571 01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:46,880 everybody rusty pack surf psych zero 2572 01:46:49,669 --> 01:46:48,159 cool 2573 01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,679 um scott 2574 01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:52,320 thanks again for your support 2575 01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:56,480 um expendable 72 2576 01:47:01,669 --> 01:47:00,080 og skywatch um and then 2577 01:47:05,350 --> 01:47:01,679 i think there was a guy that made a root 2578 01:47:08,709 --> 01:47:05,360 comment but yeah there he is nyt tag 2579 01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:08,719 what's up i'll say hi to you 2580 01:47:14,229 --> 01:47:11,760 benji always always awesome always 2581 01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,239 awesome to have you 2582 01:47:18,070 --> 01:47:16,080 and 2583 01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:18,080 i hope i didn't miss anybody 2584 01:47:23,830 --> 01:47:20,080 i miss megan where's megan been at hey 2585 01:47:26,870 --> 01:47:23,840 she's been traveling a lot i guess 2586 01:47:29,350 --> 01:47:26,880 all right uh we'll see you tomorrow guys